"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group

Submitted by GFSJayne@aol.com and GFSJim@aol.com

Edited by GFSGary@aol.com

 

 

WHAT WE ARE ABOUT…

 

OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War".

 

OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

 

OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (where we know it).

We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the social happenings. In addition we dedicate one Thursday a month to the sharing of Songs, Poems and Letters from that era. So come back and visit; we'll save you a seat at the Fireside, and keep the Cider warm... For a full listing of upcoming events, either look on the Schedule at the end of this Notice or in the Upcoming Events of the Genealogy Forum.

As we review the logs, and we find new visitors who show an interest or have entered into discussions on this topic in our Thursday sessions, we automatically add you to the distribution for this "Weekly Fireside."


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THE HELP DESK

This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday night that we didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it out. Hope these answer the mail: D

Editor's Note: Regimental Histories and Letters, etc. Postings: keyword "roots", after which will bring you to the main screen of the Genealogy Forum. Select the "Files Library Center", then "History Files". At that point select "Civil War Files. Lectures and the Letters, Songs and Poems evenings are also posted in the "Files Library Center" under "History Lectures" as the Lecture Subject. The "Firesides" when they eventually get there after their 30 days in the New Files section are posted in the "Files Library Center" under "Meeting Logs and Newsletters".


From: GFSJayne@aol.com

Dyer’s Compendium Lookup.

 

Dyer's Compendium of the War of The Rebellion: http://www.public.usit.net/mruddy/dyer.htm (2006 - Link Invalid)


Andersonville lookups

From: frye@gnat.net (FRYE FAMILY)

Kevin Frye has offered his services for looking up Andersonville ancestors.Kevin is now building a website around Andersonville that informs about the prison as well as his "look-up" offer below.

The address is: http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html

The National Park Service provides the information here. http://www.corinthian.net/mccc/plookup.htm (2006 - Link Invalid)

SUBMITTER'S NOTE: Please visit this website. It is awesome.


Vicksburg Burials - over the last number of weeks, there have been numerous questions about Confederate ancestors who died at Vicksburg and where they might have been buried. Well I was rummaging through "stuff" at the library and ran across this bit of information which might be of use to those looking.

The United Daughters of the Confederacy compiled a list of Confederate Soldiers buried at Vicksburg (Feb 15, 1862 - Jul 4, 1863) This record book was archived in a museum case at the Old Court House Museum in Vicksburg, Mississippi and is still there today, to the best of my knowledge. In addition, Miss Elizabeth C. Taylor of the Vicksburg Chapter No. 77 duly copied verbatim that record book. The resultant material was then compiled by Carolyn Reeves Erickson, 1614 Redbut St. Nacodgoches, Texas 75961 and printed by Frances Terry Ingmire of 10166 Clairmont Dr. St. Louis, Missouri 63136. This book was in my local library so I’ve got to believe this is a common item for Genealogy and Local History Library branches.

Interesting information listed were the early burial sites; Potter’s Field; Masonic Lot or sent home for burial. For course today, there is the Vicksburg Memorial Cemetery. Also of note, I found the hospitals or institutions these soldiers died in. They were Hospitals number 1, number 2, and number 3, City Hospital, Sisters of Mercy (Charity), Pest House, Vicksburg Hospital, Steamboat General Quitina, Mallor Hospital, Natchez Hospital, Varande, Ridles, Wilson Hotel, Mrs. Johnsons, Maven Hospital, Coses Hospital, G. Smith’s, and camp.

Good Hunting

GFSJim@aol.com

 

PRISON LISTS: Here are a number of publications I have dug up that were a result of many questions concerning Union and Confederate prisoners.

Confederate Prison Lists of Union Prisoners

A number of books have been printed which list prisoners in various prisons of the Union and of the Confederacy. Among the major books presenting data on Union Prisoners in Confederate prisons are:

  • O. Abbott, PRISON LIFE IN THE SOUTH, Harper and Brothers, New York, NT, 1866. Officers in prison in Columbia, South Carolina 1864-1865.
  • D. Atwater, UNION SOLDIERS BURIED AT ANDERSONVILLE, NY Tribune Association, New York, NY, 1868. 12000 names.
  • D. Berry, THE LOSS OF THE SULTANA, Thorpe, Lansing, Michigan, 1892. Steamer sinking, over 1500 exchanged Union prisoners lost.
  • Cooper, IN AND OUT OF REBEL PRISONS, Oliphant, Oswego, NY, 1888. 35 pages of officers imprisoned in Macon, GA. 1864.
  • W.W. Glazier, THE CAPTURE, THE PRISON PEN, AND THE ESCAPE, Goodwin, Hartford, Connecticut, 1867. Officers in Libby Prison (Richmond) and at Columbia, South Carolina 1864.
  • W.C. Harris, PRISON LIFE IN THE TOBACCO WAREHOUSE AT RICHMOND, Childs, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 1862. Soldiers in prison at Richmond, VA 1861-62.
  • J. Hawes, CAHABA, A STORY OF CAPTIVE BOYS IN BLUE, Burr Printing
  • House, New York, NT, 1888. Soldiers in prison in Cahaba, AL 1863-65.
  • A.B. Isham and others, PRISONERS OF WAR AND MILITARY PRISONS, Lyman and Cushing, Cincinnati, OH, 1890. Over 2000 officers in various prisons 1864-65.
  • W.H. Jeffrey, RICHMOND PRISONS, 1861-62, Republican Press, St. Johnsbury, VT. 1893. About 4000 names.
  • Lamman, JOURNAL OF ALFRED ELY, PRISONER OF WAR IN RICHMOND, Appleton and Co., New York, NT, 1862. Soldiers in Confederate prisons as of 25 November 1861. 75 pages of listings.
  • PA AT ANDERSONVILLE AND SALISBURY, Aughinbaugh, Harrisburg, PA, 1909-12. 2 volumes. Prison survivors.
  • J. L. Ransom, ANDERSONVILLE DIARY, Haskell House, New York, 1881 (1974). Camp Asylum Prison, Columbia, SC.
  • G.E. Sabre, NINETEEN MONTHS A PRISONER OF WAR, American News Co., New York, NT, 1865.
  • N. Schwartz, TWENTY-TWO MONTHS A PRISONER OF WAR, Nelson Publishing Co., St. Louis, MO, 1892. Soldiers in prison in TX 1861-63.
  • US Christian Commission, FEDERAL DEAD BURIED FROM LIBBY, BELLEISLE, DANVILLE AND CAMP LAWTON PRISONS, AT CITY POINT, AND BEFORE PETERSBURG AND RICHMOND, The Commission, Philadelphia, PA, 1865. Thousands of prisoners listed.
  • Published Compilations of Confederate Prisoners in Union Prison Camps
  • J. Barbiere, SCRAPS FROM THE PRISON TABLE AT CAMP CHASE AND JOHNSON'S ISLAND, Davis, Doylestown, PA, 1868. 57 pages of Confederate prisoners.
  • E.W. Beitzel, POINT LOOKOUT PRISON CAMP, The Author, Abell, MD, 1972. Over 3000 prisoners who died in camp.
  • CONFEDERATES WHO DIED AT CAMP DOUGLAS, CHICAGO, IL, 1862-5, Gray, Kalamazoo, MI, 1968. Over 4400.
  • B. England, CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS WHO ARE BURIED AT ROCK ISLAND ARSENAL, The Arsenal, Rock Island, IL. 1985.
  • F. Fuzzlebug, PRISON LIFE DURING THE REBELLION, Funk's Sons, Singers Glen, VA, 1869. 600 Confederate officers in prison at Morris Island 1864.
  • C.W. Holmes, THE ELMIRA PRISON CAMP, 1864-5, Putnam's Sons, New York, NT, 1912. Almost 3000 Confederate prisoner burials.
  • Frances T. Ingmire, CONFEDERATES WHO DIED IN FEDERAL PRISONS AND HOSPITALS, Ingmire Publications, St. Louis, MO, 1985. Very large list.
  • W. H. Knauss, THE STORY OF CAMP CHASE, ITS CEMETERY, AND OTHER CEMETERIES, Methodist Episcopal Church, Nashville, TN, 1906. Confederate burials at Camp Chase, Antietam, South Mountain, and Monocacy.
  • J.C. Poe, THE RAVING FOE, Longhorn Press, Eastland, TX, 1967. Over 1200 prisoners on Johnson's Island, Lake Erie.


A PATRIOT SALUTES HIS FLAG

By Tom Gladwell / GFSTEG@aol.com

SUBMITTERS NOTE: We read this into the room Thursday night and felt it was so special, that we needed to share it with more than just those in the room. Next time you say the Pledge Allegiance to the Flag... think about this.

I

(Me, an individual, a committee of one.)

Pledge

(Dedicate all my worldly goods to give without self-pity)

Allegiance

(My love and devotion.)

To the Flag

(Our standard, Old Glory, a symbol of freedom. Wherever she waves, there is respect because your loyalty has given her a dignity that shouts freedom is everyone's job.)

Of the United States

(Individual communities that have united into 50 great states, 50 individual Communities with pride and dignity and purpose, all divided with imaginary

boundaries, yet united to a common purpose, and that's love of country.)

Of America, And to the Republic

(A state in which sovereign power is invested in representatives chosen by the

People to govern. And government is the people and it's from the people to the

leaders, not from the leaders to the people.)

For which it stands: One nation Under God

(Meaning so blessed by God.)

Indivisible

(Incapable of being divided.)

With Liberty

(Meaning so blessed by God which is freedom and the right to live one's own life without threats or fear or some sort of retaliation.)

And Justice

(The principle or quality of dealing fairly with others.)

For All

(Which means it's as much your country as it is mine.)

NOTE FROM TOM:

Since I was a small boy, 2 states have been added to our country and two words, "Under God" has been added to the Pledge of Allegiance. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that it had to be eliminated from the schools too.

Tom Gladwell / GFS TEG@aol.com


 

My CW Room

In my computer there is a room

I go there once a week

Should be more I think

The Civil War is our topic

We Fight the Battles

But no Blood is shed

For here we get along

Some times we sit and learn

Airborne Jim is our Leader

But he finds the time for us

His two aides are there to help

Teg or Tom tho a Guide

At Gettysburg Great Field

Still finds the time to write and share

Lovely Jayne takes up the slack

Work horse of the room

Now if you have a question

Or maybe need some help

They're there to help you

If they can't answer your query

They will dig it up for you

Once a month we have a night

With Stories,Letters and Poems

Some are sent by we members

Others from the Pro's

A short two hours there we spend

With some Laughter and some Saddness

When we have to go away

We miss it so very much

But the Fireside helps us fill the gap

I've searched so many other rooms

To find another like it

To no avail there is not one

That can match the friendship here

So Keep my room as it is

To meet with friends, chat awhile

And meet new friends as they come in

It's a Great place for me to go

Ben

 

 


MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!..

Here's how it works. If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or battlefield, to collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then send us a request and we will post it here... Other members seeing your request and being in the near vicinity, and are willing to assist can email you direct (this protects your privacy) and work out the details. We HIGHLY recommend the "Requestor" pays for all film costs and any postage involved for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free" assistance between members (with the exception of defraying film and postage costs). Do unto others as.... You know :-)

Keep us posted on how this is working, so we can share them in the "Fireside" !!

GFSJim@aol.com


I received the following note from Joan. As you will see, and as Joan has told us in the chat room, she was bitten by a spider and has not been having an easy time of it. Please keep her in your prayers...

From: JoanRose@aol.com

I reckon you are going to have to take out my offer to take pictures. It looks like I am having to postpone my trip yet again. Surgeon (fourth doctor in three weeks!) looked at my spider-bitten arm, slathered a bunch of cream on it and told me to expect cutting away of dead flesh and skin grafts in three to six weeks. Which would take in start of my planned trip. I am, of course, very disappointed. No way am I going to get away from my doctor until that place is healed. Those brown recluses are wicked little beasties, and this one has done for me. To think I was sitting right here at my computer when he got me. Oh well, there is still next spring. I will try again next April or May. I am retaining my itinerary in my computer, although I may update it as I find more places to stop.

love

joan

{{{{{Joan}}}}} You just get better.... Then we'll all help you re-plan your trip!!


From: Phreyor@aol.com

Jayne: I am always impressed with how good your Fireside is. Please keep up the good work, and if you find any tidbits about the 118th infantry of Illinois please pass them on. RFS.

{{{{{Phreyor}}}}} It tickles us to death to know you enjoy the Fireside!!! I've put your note in the newsletter and we'll see if any of the faithful can give you some of those "tidbits" you're looking for... How about it folks??

Phreyor - I have a tidbit !! :-)

 

118th REGIMENT INFANTRY.

Organized at Camp Butler, Ill., August to October 1862. Mustered in November 7, 1862. Duty at Camp Butler and guarding prisoners till December. Left State for Memphis, Tenn., December 1, 1862. Attached to 1st Brigade, 9th Division, Right Wing 13th Army Corps (Old), Department of the Tennessee, December 1862. 1st Brigade, 3rd Division, Sherman's Yazoo Expedition, to January 1863. 1st Brigade, 9th Division, 13th Army Corps, Army of the Tennessee, to July 1863. 3rd Brigade, 1st Division, 13th Army Corps, Army of the Tennessee, to August, 1863, and Dept. of the Gulf to September, 1863. 1st Brigade, Cavalry Division, Dept. of the Gulf, to November 1863. 2nd Brigade. Cavalry Division, Dept. of the Gulf, to July 1864. 1st Brigade, Cavalry Division, Dept. of the Gulf, to September 1864. 2nd Brigade, Cavalry Division, Dept. of the Gulf, to February 1865. Cavalry Brigade, District of Baton Rouge, Dept. of the Gulf, to July 1865. Dept. of Texas to October 1865.

SERVICE --

  • Sherman's Yazoo Expedition December 20, 1862, to January 2, 1863.
  • Chickasaw Bayou December 26-28, 1862.
  • Chickasaw Bluffs December 29.
  • Yazoo River January 2, 1863.
  • Expedition to Arkansas Post, Ark., January 3-10.
  • Assault and capture of Fort Hindman January 10-11.
  • Moved to Young's Point, La., January 17-23, and duty there till March 9.
  • Moved to Milliken's Bend, La., March 9.
  • Operations from Milliken's Bend to New Carthage March 31-April 17.
  • Movement on Bruinsburg and turning Grand Gulf April 25-30.
  • Thompson's Hill, Port Gibson, May 1.
  • Champion's Hill May 16.
  • Big Black River May 17.
  • Siege of Vicksburg, Miss., May 18-July 4.
  • Assaults on Vicksburg May 19 and 22.
  • At Black River Bridge May 24-July 6.
  • Regiment mounted June 10.
  • Edwards' Ferry July 1 (Detachment).
  • Advance on Jackson, Miss., July 6-10.
  • Near Clinton July 8 (Detachment).
  • Near Jackson July 9.
  • Siege of Jackson July 10-17.
  • Raid to Brookhaven July 17-20.
  • Brookhaven July 18.
  • At Vicksburg July 25-August 8.
  • Port Hudson August 8-9.
  • Carrollton, La., August 15-16
  • Bayou Boeuf September 5-7.
  • Brashear City September 16.
  • Western Louisiana Campaign October 3-November 30.
  • Regiment mounted October 11, 1863.
  • Vermillionville October 15.
  • Carrion Crow Bayou October 16-20.
  • Grand Coteau October 19.
  • Reconnaissance toward Opelousas October 20.
  • Barrie's Landing, Opelousas, October 21.
  • Scouting and skirmishing about Opelousas October 22-30.
  • Washington October 24.
  • Bayou Bourbeaux November 2.
  • Carrion Crow Bayou November 3.
  • Bayou Sara November 9.
  • Near Vermillionville November 11.
  • New Iberia November 15-December 18.
  • Camp Pratt November 20.
  • Scout to Vermillion Bayou November 22-23.
  • Scout to St. Martinsville December 2-3.
  • Donaldsonville December 18-23
  • Port Hudson January 3-7, and duty there till July 3, 1864.
  • On scout January 12.
  • Capture of Jackson, Miss., February 10.
  • Skirmish February 16.
  • Raid to Bayou Sara and skirmish February 22.
  • Raid to Jackson March 3.
  • Skirmishes March 26-28, April 1 and 5, May 15, June 13 and 17.
  • Bayou Grosse Tete March 30 and April 2.
  • Plains Store April 7.
  • Redwood Bayou May 3.
  • Moved to Baton Rouge July 3.
  • Operations about Baton Rouge July 3-25.
  • Expedition to Davidson's Ford, near Clinton, July 17-18.
  • Olive Branch August 5.
  • Lee's Expedition to Clinton August 23-29.
  • Comite River and Clinton August 25.
  • Hodge's Plantation September 11.
  • Expedition to Amite River, New River and Bayou Manchac October 2-8.
  • Expedition to Clinton, Greensburg, etc., October 5-9.
  • Lee's Expedition to Brookhaven, Miss., November 14-21.
  • Liberty November 18.
  • Davidson's Expedition to West Pascagoula against Mobile & Ohio R. R. November 27-December 13.
  • Outpost duty at Baton Rouge till May 22, 1865.
  • Expedition west of Mississippi River February 2-3.
  • Expedition to Olive Branch, La., March 1-10.
  • Provost duty at Baton Rouge till October.
  • Expedition to Clinton and Comite River March 30-April 2.
  • Mustered out October 1.
  • Moved to Camp Butler, IL, October 2-10.
  • Discharged October 13, 1865.

Regiment lost during service 3 Officers and 21 Enlisted men killed and mortally wounded and 1 Officer and 182 Enlisted men by disease. Total 207.

"Phreyor" That was one busy regiment...


From: CDavis9461@aol.com

Jayne:

Just in case anyone out there might be interested, Wilson's Creek Battlefield is just outside of Springfield. I will be able to go out and take photos for those interested; but not until late June.

Craig

"Craig" Bless your heart. Thanks for the generous offer. We'll be sure to post this for the summer.


From: Dvgagel@aol.com

Jim, could you put a query in your postings? I am interested in corresponding with anyone who has done research on Castle Thunder, a prison in Richmond for Confederate deserters, political prisoners and northern spies, etc. Seeking memoirs, records, names of anyone imprisoned there, especially civilians. Two Ohio women were imprisoned there during war and need background information, etc. on the prison. Most of what I have found to date is very sketchy as other VA prisons overshadow it.

Thanks. Respond to Dvgagel@aol.com

Diane

{{{Diane}}} You bet we'll post your request: D Good Luck. As a bit of information; "Portals To Hell" by Lonnie R. Speer has about 3 or 4 pages about the description of and the history of Castle Thunder in Richmond, VA. There is also even less known about Federal prison called Castle Thunder in Maryland.


From: Gunsite03@aol.com

Your work is truly appreciated and I try to read most of your e-mail every week. It's been difficult, time wise, for me to participate in the chats, but still want to receive your mail. If anyone has any civil war information about the Gunn clan from Missouri (Brunswick and area), I'd really appreciate hearing.

Thanks,

Bob Gunn

Gunsite03@aol.com

"Bob" Thanks for your nice words and we’ll certainly post your request... GFS Jim


 If you're looking for information regarding a certain battle, try the following websites:

American Civil War Alphabetic List of Civil War Battles
http://www.californiacentralcoast.com/commun/map/civil/statepic/alpha.html (2006 - Link Invalid)

Battles by State The American Civil War 1861-1865
http://www.californiacentralcoast.com/commun/map/civil/statepic/index.html (2006 - Link Invalid)

Timeline The Civil War 1861-1865
http://www.californiacentralcoast.com/commun/map/civil/tl/timeline.html (2006 - Link Invalid)

These sites will lead you to many other interesting sites.


A BIT OF COMMUNITY...

Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for information, Feedbacks, Items of Interest and Pleas for HELP...


From: wolfordgen@aol.com

I saw this item for sale at eBay, the world's largest personal trading community, and thought that you might be interested. I saw this book listing Confederate Burials at FT Delaware and thought you might be interested. I never thought of this as a source for info before finding and buying a WOLFORD bible here.

Jim

Title of item: Genealogy - Civil War Confederate POW

Seller: mmadigan@advant.com

Starts: 07/23/99, 19:04:14 PDT

Ends: 07/30/99, 19:04:14 PDT

Price: Starts at $5.00

To bid on the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=136127181 (2006 - Link Invalid)

Item Description:

To Those Who Wore the Gray The Civil War Round Table of Wilmington DE, Fort Delaware Society, 1976, 46 pages in wraps with cover covered in vinyl, very good condition. Fort Delaware was a northern prisoner of war camp during the Civil War. This book lists the 2502 Confederate soldiers and citizens who are buried at the fort. The book gives name, rank, regiment and company, state, and date of death. Also included is one page of corrections and additions.

Illinois buyers must pay 6.25% sales tax and all US buyers will pay $3.00 for fourth class postage. First class postage can be arranged. Overseas sales will be shipped at buyer's choice of air or ground mail with actual postal charges charged.

If you are interested in books of genealogical interest examine my web site at the link below.

SUBMITTERS NOTE: Burials listed in the book mentioned above were at Finn's Point National Cemetery in New Jersey not at Fort Delaware. The water table was too high at the Fort for any burials.

To look for other materials go to eBay at http://search.ebay.com/ws/search/AdvSearch?sofindtype=13 and do a search.


From: ZOOMUP@aol.com

Two items here:

First, I want to let you know that I thoroughly enjoy the "Weekly Fireside" that you are so kind to prepare and send. Although I am seldom able to join in the Chats and wish I could do so each week, your recap and other information is always extremely interesting. Generally, I forward it to several friends and relatives, none of whom are on AOL, for their reading.

Second, you may wish to note sometimes that quite a bit of history of the units now constituting the 1st Cavalry Division at Fort Hood TX can be found at the following URL:

Outpost of the 1st Cavalry Division and Subordinate Commands http://www.metronet.com/~harryb/ (2006 - Link Invalid)

At that URL scroll down to the yellow Cav patches and click on one of the units shown in BLUE. At that sub site, click on "Historical Missions". I suggest that you first try the 1st and 2d Battalions, 5th Cavalry Regiment, for their Civil War involvement. The 5th was organized in 1855 while the 7th (Custer's outfit) and 8th Cavs were not organized until 1866 after the Civil war, but their histories are interesting also. The second Regimental Commander of the 5th Cav was a LTC Robert E. Lee, but at the outbreak of the Civil War he and ten or eleven other officers left the regiment to join the Confederate Army. His former regiment, the 5th, was present when Lee surrendered at Appomattox, a rather ironic presence.

All of this work and the Web site has been done by a fine gentleman named Harry Boudreau who lives near Dallas TX and devotes countless hours and days to this effort. I was in the 5th Cavalry in Korea and Japan in 1951-52 and am a member of the Board of Governors of the 5th Cavalry Association, an organization of veterans of the 5th Cavalry and now some 800 strong. I am also a member of the 1st Cavalry Division Association with some 6,000 active members who are veterans of one or more of the Division units. The Division Association will have its 52nd annual reunion at Fort Hood in early August and some 1,300 have already pre-registered for that. About 4,000 of our Division Troops are still in Bosnia but will begin returning to Hood beginning in late August and continuing until late September. The 1st Cavalry Division is now and has been for the past five years the only Division in the entire United States Army that is fully manned and fully equipped with the very latest in weapons, armor, vehicles and communications equipment, a sad comment on our state of readiness. It is the only "911" Division and stands ready to begin moving to any place in the world on 24 hours notice.

Last August and again this past February, I was invited to speak at Fort Hood to the Troopers of the 2d then the 1st Battalions, respectively, of the 5th Cavalry just before they departed for their deployments to Bosnia. In both talks I stressed the history of the units particularly in the Civil and Indian Wars using the names of battles in each of those wars for which their battalion colors now bear the colored "Battle Streamers" they were then awarded. This made a huge impression on these young soldiers; their commanders later told me, because it helped to instill in them even greater "esprit de corps", pride in unit. They learned that they were filling places occupied almost 150 years before them by people who made history, people who contributed their service and, in many cases, their lives to the country we have today. As one old 5th Cav veteran, I truly felt privileged to have been invited to speak to them and to have passed on a little of their units' history.

Jayne, that's enough for now. Thanks again for your fine work and your dedication to this effort.

Gordon L. Jennings

Houston TX

{{{{{Gordon}}}}} Mercy!!! But you do know how to say all the right things!!!! <G> and we really do appreciate all the kind words. What a thrill for you and the men at Fort Hood I'm sure... as I told Gordon, I would have like to have been there and heard his talk to the men.

Gordon pulled a "fast one" on me and snuck in the chatroom Thurs night incognito... took me awhile to figure out who he was... but I finally did!


From: Avon938@aol.com

Thanks for all the work you do...I do read the Weekly Fireside and print what I want to keep...I have limited space on the computer and had to delete to keep going...You all do a splended job of portraying the many facets of the CW....How could we even imagine what people endured and the strength the had to do

so...Thanks again! AVON938

{{{{{Avon}}}}} Thank you so much for taking the time to let us know how much you appreciate the Fireside. It truly warms our hearts to know we're "doing our job".


From: SallyEPS@aol.com

Jayne, This is the only "chat room" I tune into! I like the people - especially Tom, who gave Jeff and me such a wonderful tour of Gettysburg battlefield, you and Jim who are all such good teachers. I am interested in all US history, but the Civil War, in which some of my ancestors took part, is very haunting. I save most of the newsletters, so if it isn't too much work you, I would like to continue receiving them.

Thanks so very much for all you three do for all of us! Hope you are having a good summer!

Sally Small

{{{{Sally}}}}} Thank you for your kind words, and for wanting to continue to receive the newsletter. We’re just weeding out the distribution list. :) GFSJim@aol.com


From: Djoi@aol.com

NASA and the Navajo Elder

When NASA was preparing for the Apollo project, they did some astronaut training on a Navajo Indian reservation. One day, a Navajo elder and his son were herding sheep and came across the space crew. The old man, who only spoke Navajo, asked a question, which his son translated. "What are the guys in the big suits doing?"

A member of the crew said they were practicing for their trip to the moon. The old man got really excited and asked if he could send a message to the moon with the astronauts. Recognizing a promotional opportunity for the spin-doctors, the NASA folks found a tape recorder. After the old man recorded his message, they asked the son to translate. He refused.

So the NASA reps brought the tape to the reservation, where the rest of the tribe listened and laughed, but refused to translate the elder's message to the moon.

Finally, NASA called in an official government translator. He reported that the moon message said, "Watch out for these guys; they've come to steal your land."

{{{{Dottie}}}}} LOL.... Good for Grandpa!!!!


From: Bjfedchak@aol.com

Hi! I have a question I hope you can help me with--

My Great Grandfather fought at Gettysburg, among other places. On a recent visit to the cemetery, I again noticed how rusted the veteran marker is. Do you know where I can see about getting a replacement? There is no of knowing what it even says anymore - he died in 1905. I haven't tried the American Legion yet or anywhere else. I was hoping you or someone you're connected with would have a direct route.

Thanks for your help. Keep up the great job with the newsletter. One of these Thursdays, I'm going to make it to the chat!

Bonnie

{{{{{Bonnie}}}}} I'm putting this in the Fireside in case some of the other "faithful" have had a similar problem. I'm kind of assuming when you talk about the "veteran marker" you are talking about the GAR marker that is also used to hold the flag. We'll see what kind of answers we come up with....


From: WJwork60@aol.com

I have missed your chat this past week and will be going to WV without my computer for three weeks. I will miss the chats so much but know that when I get home I can copy all the Firesides and read them and at least share some of the excitement and pleasure that I receive from the chats you both along with Tom are very special folks I will play my dulcimer and think about my civil war soldier around his camp fire

LOL Jane


 

SUBMITTERS NOTE: I received the following through the Rootsweb Civil War Mail list

http://www.civil-war@rootsweb.com/ mail list. You should take a look at it... not only is the Monitor there but also MANY other Ironclads and the site includes links to ship rosters and photographs.

St. Louis' Ships of Iron http://www.missouricivilwarmuseum.org/1ironclads.htm

This is one of my favorite CW sites and in checking it out again, I see that the Rosters and Regimental Histories has been updated as of 06 August 1999, so you may want to check it out.

The American Civil War Homepage http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/warweb.html

This site will lead you to many more useful sites.



Subj: Who You Are Makes A Difference

From: Jowhara7@aol.com

A teacher in New York decided to honor each of her seniors in high school by telling them the difference they each made. Using a process developed by Helice Bridges of Del Mar, California, she called each student to the front of the class, one at a time. First she told them how the student made a difference to her and the class. Then she presented each of them with a blue ribbon imprinted with gold letters, which read, "Who I Am Makes a Difference."

Afterwards the teacher decided to do a class project to see what kind of impact recognition would have on a community. She gave each of the students three more ribbons and instructed them to go out and spread this acknowledgment ceremony. Then they were to follow up on the results, see who honored whom, and report back to the class in about a week.

One of the boys in the class went to a junior executive in a nearby company and honored him for helping him with his career planning. He gave him a blue ribbon and put it on his shirt. Then he gave him two extra ribbons, and said, "We're doing a class project on recognition, and we'd like you to go, find somebody to honor, give them a blue ribbon, then give them the extra blue

ribbon so they can acknowledge a third person to keep this acknowledgment ceremony going. Then, please, report back to me and tell me what happened."

Later that day the junior executive went in to see his boss, who had been noted, by the way, as being kind of a grouchy fellow. He sat his boss down and he told him that he deeply admired him for being a creative genius. The boss seemed very surprised. The junior executive asked him if he would accept the gift of the blue ribbon and would he give him permission to put it on him. His surprised boss said, "Well, sure." The junior executive took the blue ribbon and placed it right on his boss's jacket above his heart. As he gave him the last extra ribbon, he said, "Would you do me a favor? Would you take this extra ribbon and pass it on by honoring somebody else? The young boy who first gave me the ribbons is doing a project in school and we want to keep this recognition ceremony going and find out how it affects people."

That night the boss came home to his 14-year-old son and sat him down. He said, "The most incredible thing happened to me today. I was in my office and one of the junior executives came in and told me he admired me and gave me a blue ribbon for being a creative genius. Imagine. He thinks I'm a creative genius. Then he put this blue ribbon that says 'Who I Am Makes A Difference on my jacket above my heart. He gave me an extra ribbon and asked me to find somebody else to honor. As I was driving home tonight, I started thinking about whom I would honor with this ribbon and I thought about you. I want to honor you. "My days are really hectic and when I come home I don't pay a lot of attention to you. Sometimes I scream at you for not getting good enough grades in school and for your bedroom being a mess, but somehow tonight, I just wanted to sit here and, well, just let you know that you do make a difference to me. Besides your mother, you are the most important person in my life. You're a great kid and I love you!!"

The startled boy started to sob and sob, and he couldn't stop crying. His whole body shook. He looked up at his father and said through his tears, "I was planning on running away tomorrow, Dad, because I didn't think you loved me. Now I don't need to."

{{{{{Jacque}}}}} there really isn't much I can say except thank you for sending this to me and, because all of you, "the faithful" make a difference in my life, I'm sharing it with you. If there is someone in your life who has made a difference. Tell them!


 

SUBMITTERS NOTE:

Last week I included a story called "Who You Are Makes A Difference" and I then received the following.

From: MBrown2205@aol.com

That's a beautiful story about the ribbons. We don't tell those we love that we love them enough! Attended a concert in honor of those who have been hurt by violence. It was given by Theresa Hamm, who grew up in Conyers and is now with the Met in New York City. She has a most incredible voice. She said that we should so live our lives that when God calls on us to do something for Him and for mankind that we are ready. She also echoed that theme that we should tell our love ones that we love them. The concert was her gift to the community. It was awesome!

{{{{{MBrown2205}}}}} Thank you for sending this story. It just goes to show ya some people never forget "those that got them there" What a gift she gave.


From: Phreyor@aol.com

Great stuff as always Jayne! Do you have anything on a scout named Seth Harlan Davis? He was in Company E. Eighth Kentucky Volunteer Infantry. Anything about him or his unit would be wonderful. Thanks. RFS.

{{{{{Phreyor}}}}} I'm putting this in the Weekly Fireside hoping that one of our members out there might be able to help you out.


From: OCSPA@aol.com

I was wondering if I could possibly obtain any information on the 51st U S Colored Infantry from any source that you may be aware of? Most information that I have developed is from the web page by Bennie J. McRae, Jr. As and added request (if I May) I am trying to find more info. On/about Col. A. Watson Webber the commander of the 51st USCI. I have developed info that he was orig. from New York & died in Mobile Ala. I found one reference that indicates A. stands for Alonzo. When in the Buffalo, NY Library I was able to locate pic. Of Steele and others mentioned in Bennie J. McRae Jr.'s web as it concerns the 51st. USCI. I wonder if I should look more into the 1st Mississippi Infantry of which Col. A. Watson Webber was assigned. At first I thought he was perhaps in a confederate Reg. but when I read info. By Mr. McRae, Jr., I guess I was mistaken.

Thank you in advance for the help.

Greg Duck

{{{{{Greg}}}}} I've combined the two notes that you sent... We'll see if some of the "faithful" can help you out.


From: Bjfedchak@aol.com

Hi! I have a question I hope you can help me with--

My Great Grandfather fought at Gettysburg, among other places. On a recent visit to the cemetery, I again noticed how rusted the veteran marker is. Do you know where I can see about getting a replacement? There is no of knowing what it even says anymore - he died in 1905. I haven't tried the American Legion yet or anywhere else. I was hoping you or someone you're connected with would have a direct route.

Thanks for your help. Keep up the great job with the newsletter. One of these Thursdays, I'm going to make it to the chat!

Bonnie

{{{{{Bonnie}}}}} I'll leave this in the Fireside another week. We'll see if any of the "faithful" know where you might get a new GAR marker.


From: SusiCP@aol.com by the way of ANDERSONVILLE-L@rootsweb.com

I thought I would pass this on to you who are researching your roots. I ran across this site last night on the Web that has the Index of the Official Record of the War of Rebellion (one of the many names that the Civil War was called!)...

The Official Record of the War of Rebellion lists mostly all the Union Soldiers who served in the Civil War, and a partial list of the Confederate Soldiers (their records weren't as well kept). It is thousands and thousands of pages of pretty much the entire history of the Civil War; the people, the battles, etc.

You can run a name search on the Index and see where the name shows up in the Official Record of the War of Rebellion. Some even have their units listed...

This is a site you have to pay for; I had it for 24 hours for $7.95...well worth it in MHO.

The site is: Civil War Online Document Library http://civilwar.scbbs.com/

Hope this helps some of you...

{{{{{Susi}}}}} Thanks for the heads up. There is also a monthly plan and a yearly plan

Editors NOTE: Site also offers Military CDs, Books and Maps for sale.


From: KtelLady@aol.com

Hi, love all this information...Is it possible to get a copy of that story from IllinoisCW??

I would love to read it. Sounds Interesting.

Thanks.

Ktel.

{{{{{KTel}}}}} You have the "Dan Sower, Deserter or Prisoner of War" story. Hope you enjoy it as much as I did.


From: BHogan32@aol.com

Thanks for the Newsletter, often I put it in my favorite places and read when I feel better, I hope to see you this week.

Betty

{{{{{Betty}}}}} We're hoping you're feeling lots better and it was good to see you in the SIG Thurs night!!!!!!!


From: FVJEB@aol.com

Thank you so much for sending the "Sower " to Ben, he sent it to me and I printed it out. Really enjoyed it Thursday as I always do. Best room, you all do a wonderful job. I send the newsletter on to my friends they really enjoy it. See you Thursday.

Flo

{{{{{Flo}}}}} I saw Ben get "booted" and knew he would be upset if he couldn't "hear" the whole story. <G> Thanks for kind words... they are always appreciated.


From: Grimuspf42@aol.com

Thank you, Jayne. The prayer and the poem were very moving. Hope you had a nice time on your trip. I'm way out here in WA State and the history is altogether different. I'm learning about the range wars of the 1880's where some of my ancestors lost their lives over land and money. Very sad.

As my father says, who still lives in MD, "we will have alot of people to thank and are indebted to for the freedoms we enjoy today."

Hope this finds you and your family well. Thanks again. Later.

Barbara Ann Grimshaw

{{{{{Barbara}}}}} It was my pleasure to send the prayer and poem to you... now, aren't you glad we didn't take you off of the distribution <G>


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