Genealogy Forum NEWS
October, 1997
SIG Updates
SCOTS IRISH SIG
submitted by JoyceO6741
Hi, and welcome to the Irish and Scot SIG (Special Interest Group). We're glad you could join us. The September, 1997 issue of the Irish and Scot Newsletter Vol.3 # 8 is now available. You can join the e-mail list by writing to me directly. Then I will automatically e-mail you the newsletter at the beginning of each month.
To open/read the newsletter; it is necessary to use your favorite word processor and open a document. The newsletters are up loaded in ASCII format so you might have to change the file type when you are opening this file. Because of the many different types of word processors, computers PC/MAC, and printers, you will have to format (set margins, and pagination).
If you are still having a problem or feel you need more help send JohnO6742 the type of computer, word processor, and any other pertinent information, he will be able to give you more specific instructions.
BACK ISSUES - If you would like to have back issues the Irish & Scot newsletters. They are now in the "Newsletter Library". From the Sign On Menu select "Go to" then Key Word "ROOTS" Then select "File Libraries Center" then select " Logs, Newsletters & More " (Historical Links Removed - File Libraries are under construction on our website and no longer located on AOL). They have been up loaded for anyone wishing to down load them.
IRISH MAPS - I have finished uploading all the maps of the individual counties in Ireland. These maps include: The Poor-Law-Unions, The Parishes, and The Baronies. There are separate maps for each county. WHERE? First try "The New Uploads Library". They will be kept there there for approximately 30 days. They will then be moved to the File Library Center", the "History and Culture" and then "Maps".
May I also suggest that you check out the lectures library. This library contains all the past Irish and Scot lectures and they are loaded with research helps and hints. You might also browse through our messageboards. Lots of good information there also.
GFSMorgan reports:
Join GFS Linda and her co-hosts, GFS Lin, GFS Jill, JoyceO6741 and JohnO6742, in October for a series of special lectures on Irish genealogy. This intensive 5-part series begins on Friday, October 3rd, at 10:00 PM ET in the Ancestral Digs conference room and continues through the end of the month. The weekly topic schedule is as follows:
10/3 - Part I
If you're researching your Irish genealogy, this is a lecture series you will not want to miss. Join GFS Linda for these informative chats. See you there!
Finding Your Irish Townland Methods to use in locating your place name in Ireland
10/10 - Part II
Defines various jurisdictions in Ireland Census and Census substitutes & LDS film #s Giffiths, Tithe Applotments and the Householder's Index
10/17 - Part III
Church records Church of Ireland, Catholic Presbyterian, Jewish, Methodist, and Quakers
10/24 - Part IV
Registry of Deeds Wills and Testamentary records and LDS film #s
10/31 - Part V
Voters Lists and Poll Books Estate Records Deputy Keeper Reports
NEW BRUNSWICK CHAT NEWS
submitted by GFSChuck
Members, here is a reminder of our meeting on Sunday, 14 Sept. Hope to see all of you there. If your name is on the New Brunswick mail list, and you wish to be removed, please send an E-Mail Message to GFSChuck@aol.com. The message must include the words REMOVE NEW BRUNSWICK MAIL.
8PM Eastern -- New Brunswick SIG, N.B. Chat Room; Hosts: GFS Chuck and GFH Acadian. Directions: Resource Center>Regions of the World> Canada>New Brunswick area> N.B. Chat Room.
Genealogy Canada News Online!
Vol. 1 No. 4--- ISSN 1482-6429
(EDITOR'S NOTE -- Genealogy Canada News Online is published by Buckingham Press and can be accesed at the website listed above. One of the articles in the most recent issue is reprinted below with permission of the editor of the publication. Use the URLs which are listed and surf through all of the community information for New Brunswick. GFS Chuck)
Internet Site Brings Communities Together
by Elizabeth Barclay-Lapointe
What do the Canadian communities of Swift Current, Sask., and Bonavista, Nfld., have in common? They both have websites on the Community Access Project,
available at http://cap.unb.ca/ (Historical Link Removed).
Started in late 1996, the Community Access Project is sponsored by Industry Canada, and has already been able to bring over 700 Canadian communities to the Internet, and there are plans to bring over 1,500 more to the Internet by next year. What this means to genealogists is that they are able to visit these communities on the Internet, see where their ancestors lived, and have an "up-close and personal" interaction with the community where their ancestor(s) lived. Many of the sites have museums on-line, most give a history of the settlement, and some even give tourist information, so that if you are interested enough, you could plan your trip to the area just by looking at it on the site.
Genealogy Canada News Online! (GCNO!) visited a number of the sites this week and found all of them informative, and genealogically interesting. However, since it was left up to the local people as to what information they wished to have placed at the site, not all sites are the same, and so where there may be lots of information on museums at one site, they may only have the museum addresses at another site. But all in all, what is lacking at one site, is usually made up by something else which has been placed there, so the site(s) of your choice are well worth a visit.
GCNO! has jotted down the names of the communities which are now listed at the website, and are presented here by province. It is recommended that you return to the Community Access Site often, for new communities are being added all the time.
New Brunswick - Alma, Bathurst (rue de Collège), Black River Bridge, Boiestown, Campbellton, Cap-Pelé, Caraquet, Deer Island, Dorchester, Edmundston (St. Mary's Academy), Florenceville, Geary, Grand Falls, Grand Manan, Hammond River, Harcourt, Hartland, Harvey, Keswick Valley, Miramichi/Pere-Louis, Nackawic, Napan, Perth-Andover, Plaster Rock, Rivière-Verte, Sackville, Saint-André, Saint-Basile, Saint-François, Saint-Léonard, Salisbury, Shediac Cape, St. Andrews, St. George, St. Martins, St. Stephen, Shippagan-CCNB, Stanley, Sunny Corner, Tracadie-Sheila, Woodstock-WHS Quebec - Amos, Brome-Missisquoi, Cantley, Canton-Tremblay, Coaticook-Le Pont, Compton
Community Access Program (By N.B. Communities)
http://cap.ic.gc.ca/english/4000newnb.asp (Link Relocated 8/2/04)
More information on Newfoundland Communities On Line
http://www.nfcap.nf.ca/ (Link Relocated 8/2/04)
Looking for Patrick NOONAN, Chatham, NB, Merchant
From: DVaughn2@aol.com
Looking for information on Patrick NOONAN wholived in Boston in 1879-80. In 1881, he returned to Chatham, NB, where he operated a merchantile business until 1887. In 1887, Patrick sold business to his brother, Michael, and moved to Montreal. Patrick is son of John NOONAN, of Chathem, NB. Any info appreciated.
Donna Vaughn,Riverside,CA.USA
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ACGS Annual Fall Conference, Sept. 26-28, at Manchester, NH
The American-Canadian Genealogical Society will hold its Annual Fall Conference on the weekend on Sept. 26, 27 and 28 , 1997, in Manchester, NH. This is a major conference for anyone with French-Canadian ancestry.
The conference begins on Friday at the Society's library in Manchester. The Friday evening dinner will be "a-la Canadienne" at the nearby Comfort Inn. The dinner will of traditional French-Canadian faire such as Pork and Salmon, and Sugar pie followed at 7 PM with a Sing-along of French songs including "chansons-a-reponde" lead by noted Franco-American entertainer Gerard Letendre, an ACGS member from Rye Beach, NH. The dinner and entertainment is limited to 45 persons, and advance reservations are required.
The Saturday sessions will be held in the new Goulet Science Center at St. Anselm College on Manchester's west side. Registration will begin at 8:00 at a cost of $15.00 per person. There is a long list of presentations and workshops scheduled for Saturday. All the activities of this conference are open to the public, members and non-members alike.
For more information, including a complete list of all the activities, send an e-mail to the American-Canadian Genealogical Society at:
102475.2260@compuserve.com.
Or visit their Web site at:
http://www.acgs.org/
PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND CHAT NOTES
submitted by GFSChuck
For 16 Sept. 1997
(NOTE: GFSChuck will send these chat notes periodically to members with an intrest in Prince Edward Island, both as a reminder of the PEI Chats in the Genealogy Forum and to share bits of information we have gleanded from various sources.)
TUESDAYS
(In you do not wish to receive these messages, please send an E-Mail to GFSChuck@aol.com. It MUST SAY either REMOVE PEI CHAT NOTES or REMOVE PEI CHAT LIST, since I send out other notes.
(All are welcome to join us in the chat sessions, if only for a few minutes as your time allows. -- GFS Chuck, Canadian Chats Coordinator)
9PM Eastern -- Prince Edward Island SIG, P.E.I. Chat Room; Hosts: GFS Chuck, GFH Janice. Directions: Resource Center-> Regions of the World-> Canada-> Prince Edward Island-> P.E.I. Chat Room.
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Prince Edward Island's Potato Museum
(NOTE: GFH Janice gave us an excellent talk on the Prince Edward Island Musem in the meeting on Sept. 9, and we print the talk here for those who could not attend the chat. GFS Chuck)
GFHJanice: Thanks to the Boston Globe, I've added another attraction to my list of reasons to visit Prince Edward Island.
The Potato Museum in O'Leary, a village in northwest Prince County, aims to preserve the island and heritage, in particular, the lore of potatoes. Having supplanted Maine as the largest producer of potatoes in northeastern North America, the island produces 2.89 billion lbs. of potatoes per year on 104,000 cultivated acres. Its potatoes fill the needs not only of table and of processor, but also of growers. It enjoys international renown for the quality of its seed stock, which it exports around the world. The museum's homage to the mainsray of the PEI economy begins outside its doors, where sturdy potato plants, selected from all the great varieties, line the walkway. Among the museum's thousands of visitors are professional potato growers from around the world, focusing perhaps on a display of plastic potatoes bearing replicated symptons of the myriad diseases to which the spuds are prey, or perhaps amused by the collection of antique harvesting equipment, too reminiscent of gear they've been pleased to discard.
Other visitors are fascinated to learn of the 2000-year-old history of potato preservation, or of the potato's travels from the high Andes where it was first cultivated, to the Europe of the Conquistadors, and back to the New World for cultivation in British colonies.
The off-beat, perhaps unique, museum is in just the right place, in a red-dirt farming community on an island where every agricultural fair has its Miss Potato Blossom, and where it is fervently believed that there are few prettier sights than a potato field in full blossom.
Here it is proudly held that Prince Edward Islanders grow potatoes best.
GFHJanice: FINISHED
GFS Chuck: Janice, thanks for that report on another fascinating aspect of a visit to P.E.I. Makes me want some dinner now, with spuds.
SSmith9327: You all should go see it; it is very interesting.
GFHJanice: You're welcome,. Chuck. Sandra, have you been there?
SSmith9327: And the potato chocolate fudge is great!
GFS Chuck: Sandra, I have to taste that. Do you have the recipe?
SSmith9327: Yes, this summer on the NEHGS trip. We stopped there and everyone got to tour the whole place.
GFHJanice: Which exhibits did you like best?
SSmith9327: No, I didn't dare buy ANOTHER cookbook!
SSmith9327: I liked all the old "stuff" they had there. From everyone's attic, cellar and barn. Also was a small schoolhouse and a little church on the grounds.
CCoffin631: P.E.I. trivia The French used P.E.I. produce to feed it's fortress in Louisburg N.S.
GFS Chuck: TO ALL: They have some great new pictures for FREE E-mail cards in
the PEI
SSmith9327: Doesn't PEI have a nickname, like "The Garden of the Atlantic"?
CCoffin631: SSmith that is true
GFHJanice: SS - yes, mentioned in the article I read. I think that's a nickname they chose.
WAIDRO: GFHJanice enjoyed sorry Imissed the museum this summer will have to
include it next summer
SSmith9327: Everyone out in the country had lovely flower gardens and neat lawns. No junk cars!!
Cpt Shorty: Thanks Janice and Chuck, it was nice part of my evening, Bye
GFHJanice: WAIDRO - you and Sandra can do some first-hand talks for us!
ACGS Annual Fall Conference, Sept. 26-28, at Manchester, NH
The American-Canadian Genealogical Society will hold its Annual Fall Conference on the weekend on Sept. 26, 27 and 28 , 1997, in Manchester, NH. This is a major conference for anyone with French-Canadian ancestry.
The conference begins on Friday at the Society's library in Manchester. The Friday evening dinner will be "a-la Canadienne" at the nearby Comfort Inn. The dinner will of traditional French-Canadian faire such as Pork and Salmon, and Sugar pie followed at 7 PM with a Sing-along of French songs including "chansons-a-reponde" lead by noted Franco-American entertainer Gerard Letendre, an ACGS member from Rye Beach, NH. The dinner and entertainment is limited to 45 persons, and advance reservations are required.
The Saturday sessions will be held in the new Goulet Science Center at St. Anselm College on Manchester's west side. Registration will begin at 8:00 at a cost of $15.00 per person. There is a long list of presentations and workshops scheduled for Saturday. All the activities of this conference are open to the public, members and non-members alike.
For more information, including a complete list of all the activities, send an e-mail to the American-Canadian Genealogical Society at:
102475.2260@compuserve.com.
Or visit their Web site at:
http://www.acgs.org/
Some Prince Edward Island WebsitesBROOKS, YOUNG, TIBBETTS Genealogy with connection to Cumberland Cnty., ME, GenWeb Page:
http://members.aol.com/youngcolby/brooks.html
LaVACHE Genealogy The LaVache family is Acadian in origin, and although deported to France from its refuge in Prince Edward Island in 1758, and nearly exterminated by a most tragic series of deaths in exile, it managed to re-establish itself in Nova Scotia in 1774.
http://people.ne.mediaone.net/tlavash/index.html (Historical Link Removed)
Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet Canada - Prince Edward Island
http://www.cyndislist.com/pei.htm
Ship Edinburgh to St. John, P.E.I.
http://www.execpc.com/~haroldr/edbrglst.htm#table 3
MATHESON/HAYES/PICKARD/GORRIE Genealogy
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/2100/FamHis.htm (Historical Link Removed)
SOUTHERN US HISTORY CHAT
submitted by GFSMark
Due to offline work schedules, Southern History 1855-65 will meet on the FOURTH Monday (instead of the usual second Monday) in October, November and December. This once-a-month lecture session on the history of the Southern states meets at 10 pm Eastern time in the Family Reunion Room.
October's meeting will be on Monday, Oct. 27. The lecture that evening will be the fourth in a series on Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederate States of America. The speaker will be GFS Mark. Hosts for Southern History are GFS Mark and GFS Tracy.
ACADIAN/CAJUN CHAT NOTES
forwarded by GFSChuck
For Sunday, 21 September 1997
10PM Eastern -- Acadian/Cajun SIG, Ancestral Digs Room; Hosts: GFS Chuck, GFH Acadian. Directions: Genealogy Main Menu>Genealogy Chat> Ancestral Digs Room.
Just a reminder on the Acadian Chat for Sunday night.
SUNDAYS
(EDITOR'S NOTE: If anyone on the mail list would like to be removed, please send an E-Mail message to GFS Chuck@aol.com. The body of the message MUST say,
REMOVE ACADIAN MAIL LIST. These words MUST be included, since I have several mail lists. -- GFS Chuck@aol.com, Coordinator Canadian and Acadian chats.)
Forest Assn. Annual Meeting, Oct. 10-12
From: RForest110Friday, Oct. 10 -- Reunion in Chauvin, LA, boat rides on Bayou Terrebonne, dinner and Cajun music and dancing.
The fourth annual meeting of L'Association Des Forest, Fret et De Forest d'Amérique (AFFDA) will be in Raceland, LA. Canadian members are departing from Montreal on Oct. 4. for New Orleans; leaving for Lafayette, LA, on Oct. 7. Oct 9 leaving for Thibodaux, LA.
Saturday, Oct. 11 -- Meet at the American Legion Home in Raceland for genealogical and historical presentations, demonstrations, tours, annual association meeting and dinner dance.
Sunday, Oct. 12 -- Presentation of plaque honoring Charles Forest one of the first Forest (Foret) settlers in Louisiana. Mass at St. Mary Church. More food and festivities. I understand that as of now, some 50 Canadian family members are coming to join the Forest and Forets of Louisiana and sourounding states.
For additional information/Pour informations et renseignements:
Patrick Foret at (504) 624-8792, Raceland, LA.
Benny Foret at (504) 537-3788, Raceland, LA,
David Foret, E-Mail, BENSBREW@aol.com.
Bob Forest, E-Mail, RForest110@aol.com
Bob Forest
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FOREST -- Also Written: Déforest, Forêt, Foret.
(EDITOR' S NOTE -- From the Internet.)
Michel de FOREST arrived in Acadia in 1659 at the age of 33. From a first marriage he fathered six children, among them a son named René. He had another child,
Marguerite, by a second marriage to Jacqueline Benoît in 1686.
Charles Forest (the name lost the 'de' in 1693) of Port Royal, the son of René de Forest, was deported to an unknown location. We later pick up his trail at Saint
Jacques, Louisiana in 1766.
Land Patent Site in Louisiana
From: Acadian99@aol.com or rosewebb@datasync.com
Hello Cousins Plus
This is a great site for Louisiana land patents:
http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/laland/laland.pl
You can plug any surname in it for the state and get much information.
Here are the results for Decuir:
Entries matching "decuir"
To see the full record, just select the surname in the line of interest. If no names are listed below here, then none were found.
Last Name First Name Init Date Parish Acres
DECUIR A 1845 PteCoupee 0.0000
DECUIR A 1845 PteCoupee/WestBatonRouge 525.0000
DECUIR ANTOINE 1850 PteCoupee 0.0000
DECUIR ANTOINE 1850 PteCoupee/WestBatonRouge 421.2900
DECUIR EVARISTE 1853 StMartin 0.0000
DECUIR EVARISTE 1853 StMartin 45.3000
DECUIR GERARD 1860 Vermillion 141.9000
DECUIR JEAN B 1857 PteCoupee 0.0000
DECUIR JEAN B 1857 PteCoupee 0.0000
DECUIR JEAN B 1857 PteCoupee 155.0000
DECUIR JEAN B 1857 PteCoupee 171.4800
DECUIR LENON 1836 Iberia 84.5000
DECUIR MAXIMILLIEN 1849 Iberia 80.0000
DECUIR MAXIMILLIEN 1849 Iberia 163.3200
DECUIR ULGER 1855 Iberia/StMartin 0.0000
DECUIR ULGER 1855 Iberia/StMartin 0.0000
DECUIR ULGER 1855 Iberia/StMartin 1.8000
DECUIR ULGER 1855 Iberia/StMartin 60.4300
Calcasieu Parish Cemeteries on Line
From: Jan Craven
There are two more Calcasieu Parish Cemeteries online for your searching. They are Corporation Cemetery and Highland Cemetery. You will find them in the US GenWeb Archives - Louisiana - Calcasieu Parish. To go right to the cemeteries:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/la/calcasieu/calcemtc.htm.
We are trying to put notes with the cemetery records. We would like to know parents, spouse and children. You will get full credit for your contributions, so if you find someone, and can provide that information to us, please let us know.
Contact Margaret Moore, mmoore@iamerica.net
OR Jan Craven, jcraven@iamerica.net
Jan Craven, Calcasieu Parish USGenWeb Coordinator.
Acadia : Origins of the Name
The first known European to coin the term Acadia or Arcadia was Giovanni da Verrazzano (1485 - 1528). The name came to him from one of two possible sources.
One would be his meetings with a native who used the word "quoddy" or "cadie" to describe what Verrazzano understood to be the territory surrounding them. The second possible origin of the word would be from Greek or Roman classics, where the word
Arcadia is used to describe a pastoral paradise. Verrazzano, impressed with the beauty of his surroundings, may have recalled the name from these works.
During the next decades, Acadia was the name given to the land that stretched from present-day New Jersey to Nova Scotia. The name Larcadia first appeared on a 1548 map by Giacomo Gastaldi. He located it near what is now Cape Cod in Massachusetts. It later appears on a 1566 map by the Italian cartographer Bolognino Zalttieri. He placed it where Nova Scotia is today, seven decades before the French began settling there. In 1575, the French historian André Thevet changed the name to Arcadie.
From Denis BEAUREGARD's WebPage
A bit of history. Acadia's name originates from Arcadia, a district in Ancient Greece. Named thus by a navigator who was impressed by its pastoral setting and beauty. According to a less reliable source, its name originated rather with the word `Cadie' designating the little houses in which the Acadians lived; but this hypothesis seems unfounded as the name `Acadia' was used long before Acadia was settled.
Note that the name `Acadian' was transformed into `Cajun' in Louisiana. The English
pronunciation of "Acadien" explains its spelling (Acadien -> Acadjunn -> Cajun).
The colonization of Acadia starts just a bit before Quebec's, with the founding of Port Royal in 1605. Except for some short periods of British occupation, Acadia remained French up to 1713. Up to 1713, Acadia was made up of the present Atlantic provinces of Canada (New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island then known as Ile St-Jean and some parts of Newfoundland.
In 1713, a part of Acadia is definitely ceded to Britain, that is Nova Scotia with the exception of Cape Breton where was situated the fortress of Louisbourg. What corresponds to New Brunswick is claimed by both France and England, but remains under French control until 1755.
The Acadians continued to work their farms in the region until 1755, when a British governor decided to give the farms to British settlers and, in consequence, ordered the Deportation of the Acadians (le Grand Dérangement). In 1755, 7,000 Acadians are put on ships and sent to American colonies. Some authors estimate that half of those Acadians did not survive to exile. 10,000 others were able to run away to French Acadia but when French Forts were defeated, many of them were killed.
There was a period of disorder. Many Acadians are scattered in England, then in France from where many of them sailed to Louisiana (most did so in about 1785) or Îles St-Pierre et Miquelon. A part of those use run away thru the lands were found later in Québec. The main concentration is in Northern New-Brunswick.
Very few parish registers survived the " Grand Derangement ". Thus, Acadian genealogy is rife with "unknowns" : many of the links in Acadian "dictionaries" are really hypothetical assumptions.
That is all for this week.
GFSChuck
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