"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group
Submitted by GFSJayne@aol.com, GFSTeg, and GFSJim@aol.com

Edited by GFSGary@aol.com

 

 

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  • OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War".

    OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

    OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (where we know it). We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the social happenings. In addition we dedicate one Thursday a month to the sharing of Songs, Poems and Letters from that era. So come back and visit; we'll save you a seat at the Fireside, and keep the Cider warm... For a full listing of upcoming events, either look on the Schedule at the end of this Notice or in the Upcoming Events of the Genealogy Forum.

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    Clear the Way! The Irish Brigade from Fair Oaks to the Bloody Lane

    Submitted By Tom Gladwell

     

    As you saw in last week's newsletter from Jayne, I did get by to visit with DeeW84 down in Niceville, Florida. She is looking spectacular and doing just fine. They have her on a "Heart Monitor", and a few other inconvenient "gizmo's", but other than that, she's motivating OK!!! She said to give everybody a BIG HUG and even though she is unable to get to the Chat sessions,

    She still faithfully reads the "Firesides". Sooooooo, this is from Dee....

    {{{{{{{{{{{{{{The Faithful}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

    You’ll see later in "A Bit of Community" another reference where some of our members met "face to face" for the first time. I just can’t describe what these "meetings" are like. You know, we gather in the Golden Gates Chat Room and talk, share, ask and answer questions, help each other out, read poems, letters and songs, tell Civil War stories and tales and after awhile it seems we have

    Known each other forever. But the "On-Line" phenomena is that we still have not "SEEN or HEARD" each other. When we finally get that rare opportunity to do so, we stand there and stare at one another like idiots just grinning our heads off for a minute or two, then we start laughing and hugging each other and it’s like seeing long lost family.. If you EVER get the chance to meet one another, Oh Mercy, do so….. It’ll be an experience of a lifetime. ?

    I told GFS Jayne today that I was really thinking about the "Fireside" this week as I’ve been away for the "Editor’s Desk" for so long and Jayne has so graciously filled in for me while I was on travel. THANKS PARTNER!! It has been a real "boost" doing it over the years and seeing your responses. I remember talking with "JRose" and others like her who are teachers in all grades and walks around our country and we’ve often commented on how this current generation just doesn’t know our Heritage and the history surrounding it. Specifically (in our case) Civil War History. Well I was reading some material and I ran across this poem from the then "Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, which struck deep in me. Here ‘tis:

    "I think it is a noble and pious thing

    To do whatever we may by written

    Word or moulded bronze and sculpted

    Stone to keep our memories, our

    Reverence and our love alive and

    To hand them on to new generations

    All too ready to forget."

     

    This struck such a "chord" in me that I decided this poem should be a part of what Jayne and Tom and I stand up for in this forum. So attached it becomes.

    LOL

    As you have come to expect, I have a bit of music on while I’m doing the "Fireside" this week and not being one to horde great music I wish to share an extraordinary CD with you. I was astounded to learn that John Barry, orchestration of the movie scores for "Dances With Wolves", "Out of Africa", "Chaplin", "Zulu", "Goldfinger", "From Russia With Love", "Diamonds Are Forever", "Born Free", "Midnight Cowboy", "The Cotton Club", "Somewhere In Time", and "Mary Queen of Scots", had published an incredible CD called "The Beyondness of Things". I love a man who lets his "Heart" accompany his work. I gotta share some of the words he put in his CD cover.

    "For those who immerse themselves in what the fairy tale has to communicate, it becomes a deep, quiet pool which at first seems to reflect only our own image; but behind it we soon discover the inner turmoil's of our soul – it’s depth, and ways to gain peace within ourselves and with the world, which is the reward of our struggles."

    Bruno Bettelheim "The Uses of Enchantment"

    "The richness of the human journey is here. Listen. Pass it on. So that there will not pass from our future the enchantment that begins with the honored words: ‘Once upon a time long ago and far away, in a deep forest, there lived a child – much like you.’"

    Anonymous

    "How many more times will you remember a certain afternoon of your childhood, some afternoon that’s so deeply a part of your being that you can’t even conceive of your life without it? Perhaps four or five times more. Perhaps not even that. How many more times will you watch the full moon rise? Perhaps twenty. And yet it all seems limitless."

    Paul Bowles "The Sheltering Sky"

    "I should believe only in a God who understood how to dance."

    Henri Matisse

    Now take these words and the music you remember from those movies and roll them all together, wait until the cool of the evening when the world slows down a mite and the light gets incredibly sharp and clear where the colors just leap out at you, and the air is still, turn out the lights in the house, put on the CD, settle into a chair on the porch and just look around in awe and amazement.

    Enjoy my friends, because I’m soaring……………. ?


    Did you know…

     

    Submitters NOTE: In reply to my statement about this week being the final part of the series about the Irish Brigade, I received the following note:

    From: IrishInCal

    Jayne,

    Selfish of me, but will hate to see the end of the story.

    Grace

    {{{{{Grace}}}}} We hope everyone has enjoyed this story as much as you have!!!

    Editors NOTE: Scroll back to the Feature Article section and you can read the Irish Brigade in its entirety.

     


    Submitters NOTE: I received the following two stories from Bulldogtjr. He received the second one from the Commander of his SUVCW camp.

    ...this is why we need to remind everyone we meet, just what kind of heroes participated in the Civil War (on both sides). By the way Sgt. Jones Bradbury didn't make it past Farmville, VA. (Just prior to Sailors Creek.) That's where he was killed. Two days before Appomatox.

     

    NARROW ESCAPES - SOME EXCITING WAR EXPERIENCES NO. 1

     

     

    MAYOR CORNS' EXPERIENCE

     

    Ironton Register, Thursday, November 18, 1886

    [Under the above head we propose to publish a series of articles, or rather interviews with old soldiers, giving details of narrow escapes while in the service. We will print them as long as the boys keep us posted with startling personal experiences or our interviewer can gather them in.-- Ed. Reg.]

    "What was your ‘narrow escape’ in the army?" we asked of Mayor Corns, of the old Second Va. Cavalry, as he stood smoking his morning stoga, before the big cannon stove of his office, last Monday.

    "Oh, I had several that I thought was pretty narrow-- narrow enough to make my flesh creep when I even think of them now."

    "But," said we, "what was the worst fix you got into while serving Uncle Sam?"

    "Well, sir, about the worst fix," replied the Mayor, and he laughed and shuddered at the same time, "was when our division under Custer attacked Fitzhugh Lee, on the evening after the battle of Sailor’s Creek-- that was the 7th of April, 1865, two days before the surrender at Appomatox. Lee was trying to get off with a big wagon train, and Custer had orders to intercept him and capture the train if possible. Just at nightfall, we caught up with Fitzhugh Lee’s cavalry, down there not very far from Farmville. The enemy had gone into camp for the night. They were in the woods and had thrown up piles of rails as a protection against attack. We had a heavy line of skirmishes which were soon driven in, and then, having discovered the enemy’s line, Custer ordered a general charge. There were about 7000 cavalry and we went in with a rush, but after a bitter little fight we were repulsed. We ran into a ditch or drain in the charge and that upset our calculations. We piled into that ditch with considerable confusion and were glad to get out, without bringing any rebs with us. Our lines were soon reformed and another charge sounded. It was then after dark, but the moon was shining brightly. It was an open meadow over which we charged, and save the drain, was a pretty place for a cavalry fight, for those who liked that kind of business."

    "After the charge was sounded and we were on full gallop, lo and behold the enemy was charging too, and the two divisions of cavalry met in a hand to hand fight in the middle of the plain. It was an awfully mixed up affair. We couldn’t tell friend from foe half the time. We had been on the go so much that our blue uniforms were dust-colored and about as gray as the rebels’. It was the biggest free fight ever I got into, and every fellow whacked away and tried to kill every fellow he came to. It happened, however, that I got in with a little squad of six or eight of our boys, and we kept together until we found ourselves completely within the enemy’s lines, with the rebs’ banging away all around us. Our army was getting the best of the fight, and gradually pushing the rebs back, and of course we went back with the rebel line. It looked scaly for us. I saw Johnny Connelly near me and said to him, "This is a bad fix--we must get cut of this." And he said, "Yes, and here are five or six others of us right near." I got them together, for I was a Lieutenant commanding a company, and said, "Boys, we must charge to the rear and join our army," and one of the boys said, "Here goes," and started, and we were all about to put after him, but just as I started, a reb who was just in front of me, and who I thought was one of our boys, whirled around and, drawing his saber, called out, "Surrender, you d----d Yankee," at the same time bringing the saber down toward my head with fearful velocity. I dodged and the saber struck my shoulder, but did not cut the flesh as I had on an overcoat with a bear-skin collar. The blade went right through these, but stopped at the flesh, but it paralyzed my arm, which fell to my side. He did it so quickly that I had no time to parry. But missing my head, he quickly drew his saber for another stroke, and I would have got it the next time clean through my head, but just as the reb had the saber at its full height for another blow, a First N. Y. Cavalryman struck his carbine right against the fellow’s head, and exclaiming "Not this time, Johnny," blazed away and shot the reb.’s head just about off. Then we scampered to the rear, but hadn’t gone far when we got into the ragged edge of our own line and felt ourselves considerably safer. In getting out of there, three balls struck me, but I consider the narrowest escape, was when that New York Cavalryman stuck his carbine at the reb’s head and presented the blow which would have gone right through my head, as sure as fate. The narrowness of the escape was intensified by the fact that the war only lasted two days longer."

    "Before we got out of there, Johnny Connelly was shot crazy, but I snatched his horse’s rein and got him within our lines. He was sent back to the field hospital and I never saw him since; but if ever I come across that N. Y. Cavalryman, I’ll take him home, set him down in the best rocking chair in the front parlor, and feed him on mince pie and roast turkey as long as he lives."

    "Well, we drove Fitzhugh Lee back, captured his camp, and got a great many prisoners, a large proportion of whom were drunk. We found applejack by the bucketfuls all through the camp, but we were not allowed to touch a drop, though my arm hurt me terribly bad."

    "Well, Mr. Corns, that was a ‘narrow escape.’"

    "Narrow! Well, I should say so, and I sometimes have to feel up there to be sure my head ain’t split in two yet."

     


    We have room for another "narrow escape," not a very big one, but a little laughable one. Lieut. A. D. Crossland, of the old 91st tells it. Everybody knows A. D. -- as brave a fellow and as jolly as ever went into the army. He said to us on Thanksgiving Day:

     

    "I see you are giving the "narrow escapes" of the boys in the army-- I want to tell you mine-- it’s a short one. It took place at the battle of Cloyd Mountain-- a mighty hot little fight. You see I was Quartermaster and didn’t have to fight except in my own way, but I generally saw the boys through. So at that fight, I got a musket and run a corps of my own. I cornered a big reb behind a small tree. I had the advantage, because I had first aim, and as I saw a part of him, I tried to shoot, but the trigger on the old musket wouldn’t work, and while I was fussing at it to get it to go off, the reb. peeped around and surmised the difficulty, and as I was behind a very small tree that didn’t altogether conceal me, reb concluded his chance had come; so he raised up, took aim, and fired. Good gracious, how I was scared! but he missed me, and immediately I thought the thing to do was to get away from there, so I jumped from behind the tree and struck northward like greased lightning, to get with the boys. As soon as I started to run, I looked back to see if Johnny Reb was coming after me, but how happy I was, when I saw him climbing in the opposite direction as fast as his legs could carry him. As soon as he shot, he dropped his gun and lit out, just as I had done. He was going so fast I expect he is running yet. Now you can talk of your "narrow escapes," but I’m athinking that’s a pretty narrow one for a Quartermaster to get out of, don’t you?" "We do, truly."

     


     

    THE ELMIRA OBSERVATORY

    By Tom Gladwell

     

    The experience of prison war in Northern or Southern prison camps was, at best, degrading and debilitating. Even in the best run human prison camps, prisoners were subject to treatment which chipped away at the physical and mental well-being of even the strongest men. Military records of both the North and South are filled with tales of men who were treated like herds of cattle, fed with sparse or poorly- prepared rations and housed in unhealthy quarters. The prisoners who were confined in the prison camp at Elmira, New York, however, underwent an additional and unique in dignity.

    During the latter days of July 1864, most of the 4500 prisoners' attention was drawn to the construction of a large wooden structure on the outside of the fence directly across from the person camp. With the growing curiosity, the men speculated on the purpose of the tower. Day by day, the prisoners watched as the structure, which consisted of two large platforms, one above the other, neared completion. Finally, curiosity and concern was satisfied when the structure was completed and a sign placed at the entrance "an observation from to which to view the prisoners admission 15 cents, refreshments served below." Since townspeople were strictly forbidden to enter the prison, the tower afforded them of perfect opportunity to see the prisoners.Many of the prisoners reacted with amusement to the zoo-like situation. A sergeant in the third Alabama wrote that some prisoners frequently assembled near the observatory and engaged in numerous ridiculous feats of acrobatics and ground tumbling "ostensibly for the amusement of the spectators, but really in derision of being regarded as curiosity." Other prisoners were not as light hearted, however, and reacted with chagrin to the situation. One of the prisoners stated sarcastically, "I am surprised that Barnum has not taken the prisoners off the hands of Abe, carried then off in caravans through the country, turning an honest Penny by the show."And if one observation tower wasn't enough, another one soon appeared. The original tower was so profitable that a rival tower, taller by 20 feet, soon sprang up with a lower admission price of ten cents. On August 30, 1864, a regular advertisement appeared in the Elmira Daily Advertiser extolling the new observatory, three stories high, constructed by W. and W. Mears "at great expense." It was observed that, in a very short time, both towers were doing a rushing business. Although one might assume that prison officials frowned on such outlandish commercialization of the camp, in fact, the opposite was true. A Confederate prisoner, A. M. Keiley, later wrote, "The event (building the observatory) justified the wisdom of the venture, for one of the proprietors, who was part of the management of our pen, that the concern paid for itself in two weeks."The customers usually demanded refreshments as well, and before long, both booths and stands lined the streets and the spectators were able to munch ginger cakes and assorted breads while viewing the prisoners. For the thirsty observers, stands sold spruce beer or lemon pop. Indeed, a carnival atmosphere prevailed. Rows of wooden stands were built at night and were doing business the very next day. During the summer afternoons, crowds gathered to gape at the prisoners and patronize the merchants. A prisoner wryly observed, "the shinplasters rolled in and the lemon pop and ginger cakes rolled out of the observatory patriotism is spelled paytriotism up here."For their climbing efforts (and admission fees) spectators were treated to a variety of sights. From the top of the observatory, customers could see the entire compound. The buildings of the camp consisted of thirty-five 2 story barracks, measuring 100 by 20 feet. Behind the rows of barracks was a group of buildings converted into a dispensary, an adjutant's office, and guard rooms. To the rear, extending to the northern bank of Foster's Pond (a soon to be contaminated pond in the mist of the camp) were the cookhouses and mess halls. To some observers, the interior of the camp looked like "an immense beehive." Men were seen walking about while others gathered in small groups. Some men were building small fires and were baking corn meal cakes; others were seated in the shade whittling or fashioning a handicraft. Small knots of prisoners could be seen playing cards, checkers, chess, or dominoes. Still others preferred to talk in small groups and, on occasion, some would gesticulate in an animated fashion to make a point in discussion. A favorite pastime of the prisoners was craft making. Trinkets were made of bone, horn, gutta-percha, horsehair and wood. The trinkets took the form of most every conceivable thing buttons, combs, fans, rings, watch chains, and toothpicks. The work was generally well done and the prisoners did a lively business with the camp sutler. On several occasions, camp guards sold the goods to townspeople and returned the money to the prisoners. Not all of the sights were pleasant, however. Twice a day, men were marched to the mess hall for meals. Since mess hall facilities were too small to accommodate all of the men at once, there was much confusion and scrambling for position in line. At this time, lines of pathetic, bone-thin men with long, unkempt hair were seen clutching canteens, tin cans and coffee post while anxiously awaiting the days meager meal. Occasionally, weaker prisoners fell in the scramble and hungry men were obliged to let them lie on the ground rather than miss their meal. Thought the prisoners may have appeared as a motley menagerie to the well feed observers they did enjoy a laugh on the people on one occasion. Although no prisoners could have visitors, Federal officers sometimes brought female visitors into the camp to view the captives. In one instance a young lady raised her skirts as she walked through a ward and proclaimed in revulsion, "Oh, those nasty, dirty, ignorant, beastly Rebels!" As she passed one lice-infested prisoner, he casually flicked a couple of "graybacks" on her. For hours thereafter, the men gleefully imagined the subsequent gyrations of the unsuspecting woman in the company of her dignified escorts. The only thing that marks the camp today is a marker. More than 2,000 men died at Elmira in the short time it was in operation and are buried in Wood Lawn National cemetery. It was the worst of all northern POW camps. And was renamed by the Southern boys kept there as "Hellmira."

    Tom


    From: SBoard5005@aol.com

    John Hammond received his early education in the common schools of Crown point, N. Y. and at a school taught by the Rev. James Ten Broeck at Panton, Vt. After a course at St. Alban’s Academy, he finished his education at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, N. Y. in 1847. He then entered the store of Hammond & Co.,, at Crown Point, N. Y., as a clerk.

    In 1849 he went to California by the Overland Route, remaining there for three years without having made a fortune. A very good description of his adventures on his long and perilous journey across the continent, and his later experiences during the gold excitement from his own pen, has been published in memorial volume of his life printed by P. P. Pettibone & Co., of Chicago in 1890. After his return from California he engaged in the mercantile and lumber business in Crown Point until the breaking out of the Civil War in 1861.After the first battle of Bull Run he determined to raise a Company of Cavalry and go to the front. His appeal to the people of his native town was responded to with ardor and promptness that is seldom equaled. The fervid zeal that was inspired could not wait for regular enlistment papers, and a written compact was drawn up and signed by 127 young men of the town to serve the government for three years. This entire body of men, comprising the flower of youth of Crown Point, was accepted and mustered in as Privates. Charles F. Hammond advanced the funds to purchase 108 horses for the Company which then joined the 5th N. Y. Cavalry on Staten Island, where it was organized as Company H, and John Hammond chosen as Captain.

    This Company was in one of the fighting regiments of the War, and was in the thickest of the conflict throughout the entire struggle. The letters written home by Col. Hammond from the field of action which are published in the volume referred to previously, contains a very full account of the doings of this famous Regiment.

    Enlisting as a Private, John Hammond rose to the rank of Colonel and the Command of his Regiment, and received the Brevet of Brigadier General. he was twice wounded in action, but his untiring energy would not permit him to remain off duty when it was possible to get around and he remain off duty less than 30 days during his entire three years of service. Space will not permit the printing here of the many complimentary notices of General Hammond which the author has collected, but it is sufficient to say that General Hammond was the bravest of the brave, a born fighter, and that his heart and soul were in the cause of freedom.

    After the war he returned to Crown Point and engaged in the great iron industry again. He was the prime mover in the consolidation of the old Crown Point Iron Co., J. and T. Hammond, and Penfield & Harwood in the formation of the Crown Point Iron Co. He became President and General Manager the new company and under his efficient management, the furnaces, the wharf at the lake, and the railroad to Hammondville were built, and an industry built up that supported 3000 people.

    He took an active interest in politics, and was a strong partisan. He was a delegate to the Replulican convention at Philadelphia, which nominated General Grant for a second term, and represented his district in the 46th & 47th Congress while Chester Arthur was President. His children played with the President's children in the White House.

    In his home life he was singularly genial, kind and loving. His speech was pure and free from profanity and vulgarity. He was a lover of children and music. As a businessman he was the soul of honor and kept every engagement. He believed in an honest day's work. He was ever the friend of the poor and unfortunate, and ready to help such as needed his aid.

    In the engagement announcement of his granddaughter, Elizabeth, the society columnist said: "General John Hammond (received a Brevet of Brigadier General) served with honor throughout the Civil War, has many gifts of mind and heart sending him to Washington, D C as a Representative of his state through three successive administrations, those of President Hayes, Garfield and Arthur. He and Mrs. Hammond, who is well remembered here for her charming old-world grace and infinite charm lived for many years in the national capitol, bringing to their residence there the dignity, generosity and hospitality which never failed them"

     

    The following is a little info about Col. Hammond's part in the Civil War.

     

    The Fifth New York Cavalry, Commanded by Col. John Hammond of Crown Point, NY., had already signalized itself under this intrepid leader in the struggles of the army of the Potomac with it's desperate foe, the army of Gen. Lee.

    Oh the 30th of June 1863, at Hanover Pa. fourteen miles from Gettysburg this regiment was the first to exchange shots and cross sabres on free soil with the daring and desperate invaders who fought under the celebrated leader of the Confederacy, Gen J.E.B. Stuart. The accurate military critic, the Comte de Paris, himself a participant in most of our great battles, speaks in his work of our Civil War of this engagement as " the bloody battle of Hanover, " The Fith NY. under Col. John Hammond, bore the brunt of the attack, and after, repelling the charge, charged the foe and gloriously drove him from the field. The sad and long list of the causulaties in killed and wounded gave testament to the character of the conflict. This was the real beginning of the Famous Battle of Gettysburg, fought on July 1,2,and 3 1863, Then this command, with the brigade and division to which it was attached, under Kilpatrick and the lamented Farnsworth, hung upon and harrassed the enemy in the vicinity of Gettysburg until the early morning of the 3rd then took a position of the extreme left, the Fifth supporting Elder's Battery, Leiut. Elder was a glorious type of the born soldier, here commanding a battery of the regular army, who only wanted to know " if John Hammond and his famous New York troopers were with him." Here at the base of Big Round Top, just before Pickett made his famous charge, this cavalry went over ground today deemed impassable for horse, gallantly charged the enemy's infantry and in a large degree deverted Lee's forces, so that the grand, historic charge of Pickett proved a brillant but disastrous failure, and "the blood flecked tidal wave of fratracidal war" here receded and so continued unitl it settled into the blessed calm of national peace.

    {{{{{Susan}}}}} Thank you for sharing the above info with us.. I visited the website you mentioned in the chat and decided to put it in here for others to visit!!


    Myra Maebelle Shirley, the daughter of John Shirley, who operated the Shirley House Hotel and Tavern in Carthage, Missouri, was a tender age of 13 when the Civil War in the Ozarks began in 1861. The Shirley Tavern was a popular place for heated political discussions and young Belle became an activist for the Confederate cause at an early age. Her brother John Allison ("Bud") Shirley joined the Confederate Army. Learning of Union movements in the region, young Belle would often carry such information to Confederate camps. While dining at a Mrs. Stewart’s home near Sarcoxie, Missouri, with several Confederate companions, Ed Shirley was killed when the group was attacked by a Union party. Young Belle and her mother went to Sarcoxie to claim the body a short time before the Shirley family decided to leave Missouir for Texas. No doubt the death of her beloved brother and the bitterness caused within her as a result of the Civil War greatly contributed to Belle Shirley eventually becoming the infamous "Belle Starr", the Outlaw Queen. Following the War, many former Quantrill guerrillas drifted into Texas to often visit Shirley’s Tavern there where Belle renewed her Missouri admiration for such men as Jesse and Frank James, the Youngers, and Jim Reed, who became her first husband.

    William Clarke Quantrill, a former Kansas schoolteacher, formed a guerilla band from mostly young Missouri-Kansas border farm boys in support of the Confederate cause. Under his leadership and that of his lieutenants, Bloody Bill Anderson and George Todd, these guerilla forces became the bloodiest and most feared of the Civil War. Quantrill left the Ozarks with a few of his followers shortly after participating in numerous skirmishes in northwest Arkansas. He was eventually killed in a skirmish at Wakefield, Kentucky.

    Cole Younger, the ex-guerilla leader and member of the James-Younger outlaw gang was eventually captured following the Minnesota Bank holdup after the Civil War. After his release from the Minnesota State Prison, Cole became a very popular personality. He traveled throughout the nation giving lectures on "What Life Has Taught Me" and appeared in the Wild West shows of the period. He died of natural causes on March 26, 1916.

     

    THE HELP DESK

     

    This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday night that we didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it out. Hope these answer the mail: D

    Submitters Note: Regimental Histories and Letters, etc. Postings: keyword "roots", after which will bring you to the main screen of the Genealogy Forum. Select the "Files Library Center", then "History Files". At that point select "Civil War Files. Lectures and the Letters, Songs and Poems evenings are also posted in the "Files Library Center" under "History Lectures" as the Lecture Subject. The "Firesides" when they eventually get there after their 30 days in the New Files section are posted in the "Files Library Center" under "Meeting Logs and Newsletters".


    Andersonville lookups

    From: frye@gnat.net (FRYE FAMILY)

    Kevin Frye has offered his services for looking up Andersonville ancestors. Kevin is now building a website around Andersonville that informs about the prison as well as his "look-up" offer below.

    The address is: http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html

     

    The National Park Service provides the information here. http://www.nps.gov/ande/

    SUBMITTER'S NOTE: Please visit this website. It is awesome. See note below.


    MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!..

     

    Here's how it works.. If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or battlefield, to collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then send us a request and we will post it here... Other members seeing your request and being in the near vicinity, and are willing to assist can email you direct (this protects your privacy) and work out the details. We HIGHLY recommend the "Requestor" pay for all film costs and any postage involved for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free" assistance between members (with the exception of defraying film and postage costs). Do unto others as.... you know :-)

    Keep us posted on how this is working, so we can share them in the "Fireside"!!

    GFS Jim

    IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANSWER(S) TO YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE BE SURE TO LET US KNOW!!!!! Thanks!!

    GFS Jayne


    Carol jake is still looking for someone to take a picture for her at the Philadelphia National Cemetery, Haines St. and Limekiln Pike of her soldier ancestor John HEDGLIN in Section B grave 639. She has a map of the cemetery she will scan if you need it.

    She is also still looking for information about the 184 PA Inf, Co. B

     

    Submitters NOTE: Any "helpers" out there????????

    Pugnutty is also still looking for someone to take photos of CW ancestors' graves.....

    Daniel Boone CORBIN Co. F, 10th MO Infantry of the war and discharged 17 Oct. 1862. He died 15 Nov. 1925 and is buried in New Salem Cemetary, Couch, MO.

    William Henry CORBIN, Private, Co. E, 24th MO Infantry, he served for 3 yrs 6months, 21days and was shot in the hip and held in Libby Prison. Died 5 Jan 1934. Buried Melbourne, MO.

    Submitters NOTE: We need some more "helpers" out there!!!!!


    From: Jab0615

    Photo request for Brigade markers of Smith's Brigade on East Conferderate Ave. on the East slope of Culps Hill in Gettsyburg. My grgr grandfather was in Co. "G" 31st Virginia Inf. that fought there.

    J. Beale

     

    {{{{{JAB}}}}} Try the following website... there are some really neat pictures there. Behind the Stonewall - 360 Degree Panoramic Images From Civil War Battlefields http://www.jatruck.com/stonewall/

    Anybody out there able to help JAB???


    Following is a "series" of notes. They just go to show how the interaction between the Faithful really works!!!!!

     

    From: QNavyWife@aol.com

    To: GFS Jayne

    Thanks as usual for a great effort on the Fireside.... wish I could make the chats but it is just too late! Oh well, maybe one of these days I'll be able to hop in..... Anyway, could you thank Ike Watrous for me for the ideas he gave me awhile back on who to contact to find out if my CW ancestor was buried in a national cemetery. I ended up finding an address to contact and sent a letter and got a response this past weekend! I was looking for info on my gr gr gr uncle Thomas Russell, who served with the 157th NY and died at the hospital on Hilton Head, SC. I contacted the National Cemetery at Beaufort, SC and guess who is buried there as far as I can tell by the info I received!!!! My Thomas appears to be one in the same as the Thomas Russell who is buried there! After all these years of the family not knowing where he was, I seem to have found him! What a great piece of mail to get!!!! Now I have a request that I hope someone can help me with..... as I live in NY state I won't be able to get pictures of the grave easily....I am hoping that someone may live close enough to Beaufort that they would be willing to go and get some pictures for me...... I would appreciate it more than I could ever say! And of course I would pay the costs of the film and developing and postage or if someone would be willing to take the pictures and send the film to me I would take care of developing it myself.... what ever would work! I hope someone can help me out! Thanks and keep up the good work!

    Robin


    From: GFS Jayne

    To: QNavyWife

    Robin,

    How wonderful on your find!!!!!!!! I know how exciting that can be! I've forwarded your note to Ike and I'm sure he'll be thrilled when he reads it to know he helped. I'll put your note in the next Weekly Fireside in hopes that we can find somebody on the distribution to take a picture for you!!

    Jayne


    From: FIWATROUS@aol.com

    To: QNavyWife

    Robin,

    GFS Jayne forwarded your email regarding your discovery of your gr gr gr uncle Thomas Russell's gravesite at Beaufort, SC.

    I hope my information helped. My own search did not end with so much luck. My ancestor was among the thousands buried hastily somewhere after the Battle of Port Hudson in Louisiana for whom there is no record. I received a very nice

    "so sorry" letter from the Dept. of Memorial Affairs in Washington, D.C.

    It is so encouraging to hear the success stories.

    Best regards,

    Ike Watrous


    From: QNavyWife

    To: GFS Jayne

    HI,

    Yes, it is exciting! We were out of town meeting my husbands real father and family for the first time over the weekend which in itself was quite exciting! But then the first piece of mail he handed to me when he came back with it from the neighbors was the letter from the cemetery. To finally find Thomas after all these years is just incredible. I don't know why no one else thought to look at the National Cemeteries.... who knows? Guess they were all waiting for me to be born and do it for them. I hope he is looking down on us all right now with a smile. Maybe he is one ghost put to rest????!!!!???? Now if someone can get me some pictures that would be even better! But at least I can let the family know we have a burial location finally! Thanks for forwarding the message to Ike.... Thanks again!

    Robin


    Rootdiggin57@aol.com asked if anyone knows whether there is a place that can be checked online for Civil War medals for Confederates or even whether the Confederates gave medals. Anybody have any ideas????????

    IllinoisCW is looking for someone lliving in or near Livingston County, NY. He's trying to locate a possible gravesite. If you think you might be able to help, e-mail IllinoisCW@aol.com for further details.

    TEAPOT311@aol.com wants to know if there would be records at the National Archives if an ancestor was a "scout" for General Grant... Teapot311 does not know if ancestor was actually in the military. Any help out there????

    From: PeterB Atl

    Unfortunately my work schedule doesn't permit me to participate in the chats but I thoroughly enjoy your newsletter. I'm not aware of an online site for Confederate Medals. In fact, there were no official medals issued by the Confederate Government. Secretary of War George Randolph wrote to President Davis (12 Aug 1862): "It is to be regretted that we cannot reward such services as the Army has rendered. They are infinitely above all compensation, but something may be done to show our appreciation of them........ I think that medals conferred as rewards for good conduct in the field cultivate the spirit which distinguishes the patriot soldier from the mercenary."The issuance of medals was raised again in Confederate General Order 31 (3 Oct 1862) - but at the same time it declared the difficulty of obtaining medals and proposed a "Confederate Roll of Honor" to recognize individual soldiers. General Order 93, Section 27 (22 Nov 1862) provided for an "Act to authorize the grant of Medals and Badges of Distinction as a reward for Courage and Good Conduct on the Field of Battle."Mr Francis La Barre, a Richmond, Virginia silversmith, submitted several designs for a "Confederate Medal of Honor". After General Order 93, La Barre attempted to push for his designs by writing to Secretary Randolph and suggesting discarded cannons could be the source of the metal needed. Unfortunately nothing came of it and a final effort was made in May of 1864 for medals but still no action. What did finally happen was General Order 131 (3 Oct 1863), establishing the "Confederate Roll of Honor", which eventually came to list some 2000 names of Confederate soldiers selected for valor. This is not to say there were no Confederate war time medals - just none issued under the authority of the Confederate Government. There were several private issue medals, notably: the Beauregard and Davis Medals, Confederate Maryland Cross, Nathan Evans Medal, President's Guard Medal, Davis Guard Medal, Stonewall Jackson Medal, and the Texas Star.

    Keep up the GREAT WORK!!...............

    Peter Bertram, Editor

    The Confederate MBR (Medals, Badges, Ribbons) Newsletter

    "Peter" – "Ms Jayne" forwarded your response for the newsletter this week. Thanks for your response to "Rootdiggin57’s" query. This is what just makes this newsletter so neat. "Folks helping Folks"….


    A BIT OF COMMUNITY...

     

    Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for information, Feedbacks, Items of Interest and Pleas for HELP...


    As you know, I've been putting URLs in the newsletter lately... If you find something you think others might be interested it, by all means send it/them!!!!!! I'd rather receive the same website several times than not know about it at all.

    EVERTON'S FAMILY HISTORY NEWSLINE

     

    Find out how to learn more about your ancestors from their associations, in the July-August 1999 edition of Everton's Genealogical Helper. Subscribe for a full year for only $24.

    1-800-443-6325 (toll-free)


    Documenting the Civil War

    In the aftermath of the U.S. Civil War (a.k.a. The War of the Rebellion, The War Between the States, The War for Southern Independence, etc.), the Secretary of War (Elihu Root) commissioned a printed compilation of records of the two forces involved in that conflict.

    The task was completed under the direction of Brigadier General Fred C. Ainsworth and Mr. Joseph W. Kirkley. The fruit of their labors (and of those who served with them) was 128 printed volumes, many of which ran to more than 1,000 pages. This massive reference work was published by the Government Printing Office from 1880 to 1901, and is considered one of the best reference works for anyone seeking to understand the American Civil War. It is certainly one of the most comprehensive.

     

    Thanks to Cornell University's part in the "Making of America" project, All of the 128 books in this series have been scanned and placed online for free access to researchers. The result is a unique opportunity for all genealogists who are seeking to learn more about their ancestors who saw duty in the Civil War, whether they fought for the Union or the Confederacy.

    The material is largely based on reports from those who commanded in various actions in the war, often composed of minute-by-minute descriptions of battles, troop movements and casualty reports. An amazing number of men are mentioned by name, with descriptions of their individual acts, and often commendations for their heroism.

     

    The interface to the volumes is extremely sparse, consisting of the series and volume numbers, the size of the book and the year of publication. But each volume has a serviceable index at the end, and each has a table of contents preceding the reports, correspondence and other documents which it contains.

    Whether you are a historian seeking to learn more about the day to day life of those who served, or a genealogist seeking personal data on your ancestors, this online edition of The War of the Rebellion will be an invaluable addition to your list of favorite websites.

    Resources:

    The War of the Rebellion

    http://library8.library.cornell.edu/moa/browse.monographs/waro.html

     

    Copyright 1999, Everton Publishers

    All rights reserved


    FAMILY HISTORY NEWSLINE is a free daily genealogy news service provided by:
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    (((((Vern))))) Sure do appreciate you forwarding this to me to share with the "faithful"

     BELOW ARE SEVERAL EMAILS FROM THE FAITHFUL.... They make doing what we do worth all the time and effort!! You all make it so easy for us and without you, there wouldn't be an American Civil War History chat. THANK YOU ALL from the bottoms of our hearts!!!!!

    From: SusiCP@aol.com

    Fabulous as always... I look forward to each newsletter even if I do not get to attend each chat..

    SusiCP


     
    From: BHogan32@aol.com

    WOW Jayne thanks!!!!!!! I think this is great soo much to explore, I wish I knew how to log all the poems, letters etc. I do still thank you for the one you sent to me. Betty (~. ~)

    {{{{{Betty}}}}} You have the instructions on how to log now <G>


     
    From: Taz51560@aol.com

    Jayne,

    Thanks so much for sharing the site for songs and poetry of the civil war. What a tremendous find indeed. Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful is all I can say about it. I never thought I would ever find such a collection of songs and poetry. Found some things I had been looking for for a long time. Again thank you. I made sure to put it on my favorites list.

    The Taz (Tracy)


     
    From: DWear28921@aol.com

    Enjoy your articles and wish I could join you on Thursday's. I get home too late.


     
    From: AslanJ@aol.com

    TO: GFS Jim

    CONGRATULATIONS!!!! And lots of love to all

    Judy Canant


     
    I have tried searching the web for that and found nothing about the model of Shiloh. BUT, I did find an article way up in the Chicago Tribune on the Ironclads, which should be of interest to the Fireside folks.

    Judy Canant

    Chicago Tribune

    http://cgi.chicago.tribune.com/travel/dest/archive/na/us/960505va.htm
    (Sorry - Link no longer valid - 6/26/2004)

     

    Copyright Chicago Tribune 1996

     

    THE WAR BETWEEN THE IRONCLADS IN VIRGINIA, HISTORY COMES TO LIFE ON A WIDE STRETCH OF RIVER CALLED HAMPTON ROADS

    By Michael Kilian, Tribune Staff Writer.

    Orginally published: Sunday, May 5, 1996


     
    From: BAH002@aol.com

    To: GFS Jayne

    Jayne In regard to diseases & insects of the C.W. did the author take into account (regarding plague, typhus, etc.) that many Doctors had no formal training, or knowledge of the disease process and in the case of my Great Uncle, his death certificate states that he died of "some disease". Because his Doctor, as with most all DR's at that time had no idea of complications or relapse of disease. My Great Uncle had the measles went back to work (soldiering) and died a few days later. The article, even though is interesting, I believe counts too much on the knowledge of men who had very little knowledge about their chosen profession.

    Barbara Hughes


     
    From: FAD33@aol.com

    To: GFS Jayne

    I just checked the Parole List for the Siege of Vicksburg. This must not be a complete listing as neither of my Joiner ancestors is mentioned. I have seen the actual list at the Military Park so I know whereof I speak.

    Do not despair if your man is not among those at the Parole website. Your best bet is to contact the Vicksburg Military Park itself by snail mail.

    Am still having trouble getting on line at night. We hope AOL will add another access number for the Rio Grand Valley! I do so enjoy the newsletter.

    Best regards,

    Frances Ann


     From: Docflats@aol.com

    I think you've done it again! I was cruisin through my mail and reading the newsletter B.C. (before coffee) this morn and you've given me another lead in tracing my elusive great -grandfather. Since there were 5 James Mcdonalds in his regiment and few other details your info on the pension files is bringing me closer to my goal! And there is an interested party in Kilkenny Ireland who is going to be very excited. Your work is helping resesarchers world-wide.

    Thanks so much!

    Mary Lou McDonald-Flatter


    From: Gunsite03@aol.com

    Hi all,

    Back from Russia after three weeks, three cities, and nearly four thousand miles of travel across the Russian countryside. Lost my glasses in Nizhny Novgorod (a seven hour train trip southeast of Moscow), so while in the doctor's office today I picked up a copy of a publication I'd never seen before, The Ozarks Mountaineer, the Oct/Nov 1998 issue. It contained a great article entitled, "The Bloody Legacy of William Clarke Quantrill", a part of civil War history. It's worthwhile reading if you can find it.

    Thanks for the continuing e-mail.

    Bob Gunn

    {{{{{Bob}}}}} We're sure glad you made it back to the good ol' U.S. of A. safe and sound, even though you were a pair of glasses lighter. Me, if I had left my glasses anywhere, I'd have never made it back home. Just cant' see with them!!!!!


     
    CHUCKLES...

    From: Flicka1969@aol.com

    Early in the Civil War, when the Union armies were suffering repeated defeats, Abraham Lincoln was discussing the war situation with his cabinet.

    "How many men do you estimate are in the Confederate army?"a cabinet member asked.

    "About a million and a half," said Lincoln.

    "That many?" said another member. "I thought the number was considerablyless."

    "So did I," said Lincoln, "but every time one of our generalslose a battle, he insists that he was outnumbered three to one - and we have about 500,000 men."

    {{{{{Rita}}}}} Thanks LOL


     
    In the room Thursday night Rc asked about reading a poem into the room and I asked him/her to send it and I would read it. Well, things were so hectic, I didn't get a chance to read it to the room before Rc left, so I'm putting it in here, to be shared with even more of you.

    From: Rcbrooks1@aol.com

    The story speaks for itself Jayne,

    APRIL 27, EIGHTEEN SIXTY-FIVE

     

    The flight, pursuit, and remorse of Lincoln's assassin are vividly portrayed by a teenage Emma Lazarus in this poem. She chose for her title the date of John Wilkes Booth's capture and death, in error giving it a day later than it actually occurred. This poem first appeared in 1867, in "Poems and Translations by Emma Lazarus, Written Between the Ages of Fourteen and Seventeen." Because of the ambiguous title, this piece has gone unnoticed by most Lincoln scholars.
    "Oh, where can I lay my aching head?"
    The weary-worn fugitive sadly said.

    "I have wandered in all the sleepless night,

    And I saw my pursuers distant light

    As it glared o'er the river's waves of blue,

    And flashed forth again in each drop of dew--

    I've wandered all night in this deadly air,

    Till, sick'ning, I drop with pain and despair."

    Go forth! Thou shalt have here no rest again,

    For thy brow is marked with the brand of Cain.

    "I am weary and faint and ill," said he,

    "And the stars look down so mercilessly!

    Do you mock me with your glittering ray,

    And seek, like the garish sun, to betray?

    O, forbear, cruel stars, so bright and high;

    Ye are happy and pure in God's own sky.

    O, where can I lay me down to sleep,

    To rest and to slumber, to pray and weep?"

    Go forth! Thou shalt have here no rest again,

    For thy brow is marked with the brand of Cain.

    "To sleep! What is sleep now but haunting dreams?

    Chased off, everytime by the flashing gleam

    Of the light o'er the stream of yonder town,

    Where all are searching and hunting me down!

    O, the wearisome pain, the dread suspense,

    And the horror each instant more intense!

    I yearn for the rest from my pain and for sleep--

    Bright stars, do ye mock, or quivering, weep?"

    Go forth! Thou shalt have here no rest again,

    For thy brow is marked with the brand of Cain.

    On the marsh's grass, without pillow or bed,

    Fell the rain and dew on his fated head;

    While the will-o'-the-wisp with its changeful light,

    Led him on o'er the swamp in the darksome night;

    And all Nature's voices cried out again,

    To the weary fugitive in his pain--

    Go forth! Thou shalt have here no rest again,

    For thy brow is marked with the brand of Cain.

    The pursuers are near! O, bitter strife!

    Youth, more strong than despair still clings to life.

    More near and more near! They find him at last;

    One desperate struggle, and all is past--

    One desperate struggle, mid smoke and flame,

    For life without joy, and darkness and shame.

    A prayer ascends to high Heaven's gate

    For his soul, O God, be it not too late!

    A ball cleaves the air...He is lying there,

    Pale, stiff and cold in the fresh morning air;

    And the flames' hot breath is all stifled now,

    And the breezes caress his marble brow.

    All sorrow has gone with a life's fitful breath.

    Rest at last! For thy brow bears the seal of death.

      

    This poem is part of a collection Abraham Lincoln: The Tribute of the Synagogue compiled by Emanuel Hertz,

    {{{{{Rc}}}}} Thanks for sending this and I do apologize for not reading it in the room but even more can read it here..


     From: DeeW84@aol.com

    Jim came over for ahile last evening and had good visit--he is such a gentleman--I do not know where you , Jim and Teg find time to do all the great things you do for us--it is much appreciated. I have not been in the chat room much lately, but do look forward to the Fireside--which reminds me, can you send me the 16th again--wouldn't you know I lost it again when taking things off the EM this morning--Love you all--wish you and Teg could come this way, open invitation always. Regards, DeeW84

    {{{{{Dee}}}}} I'm so glad Jim got a chance to visit with you. I'm sure he was tickled to death to be able to take a break from work and spend the time in good company too!!!! Dee, you just never know when Teg or I may show up on your doorstep!!! We all love you too and we're glad you can enjoy the Weekly Fireside even if you can't make it to the room right now.


     
    From: Carol jake@aol.com

    WV State Archives Civil War Medals home page http://www.wvculture.org/history/medals.html


    The following were received from several of the "Faithful"

      

    MOA JournalS2 Collection: War of the Rebellion

    http://library8.library.cornell.edu/moa/browse.monographs/waro.html
    (Link Updated 6/27/04)

     

    Official Records of the Union and Conf. Navies in the War of the Rebellion, Journal Contents (1861 - 1865)

    http://library8.library.cornell.edu/moa/browse.monographs/ofre.html
    (Link Updated 6/27/04)

     

    Table of Contents and Search Engine at:

    The Official Record's of the Union and Confederate Armies http://www.researchonline.net/or


     
    From FI WATROUS: this website sorts out the 128 vols. on the War of the Rebellion.

    War of the Rebellion: Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies

    http://www.archives.gov/research_room/alic/reference_desk/
    military_resources/civil_war_armies_records.html

    (Link Updated 6/27/04)


     

    From: GFSWolford@aol.com

    This is searchable database for Canadians who served with Maine units.

    Canadians in Maine Military - Us Civil War

    http://www.isn.net/~dhunter/mainem.html#top

    This is a Re-enactors Page from Canada with some interesting information

    Canadian Re-enactors Page of the American Civil War http://users.interlinks.net/rebel/civilwar/civilwar.htm

    Info about Michigan Units - Michigan History Links

    http://leslie.k12.mi.us/~mwhfame/mihst.html

    http://leslie.k12.mi.us/~mwhfame/mihst.html#WOMEN

    Scroll down to Americans in CW link - might be others here to relating to Canadians.

    Also this one has some short biographies of Canadians in CW

    Canadian Confederation: Some Little-Known Stories http://www.collectionscanada.ca/confederation/index-e.html
    (Link Updated 6/27/04)


     Welcome To The Institute For Civil War Research

    http://members.aol.com/icwrjohn/icwr.html

    be sure to clink on Links..... brings up lots of neat Civil War Links

    NARROW ESCAPES IN THE CIVIL WAR

    http://www.lawrencecountyohio.com/civilwar/narrowescapes/narrowindex.htm
    (Link Updated 6/27/04)


     

    From: RCorey1998@aol.com

    Thanks again for lots of great sites to explore. I really wish I could catch the chat sessions but work conflicts at times.

    Miss you all.

    Ruth


     
    SOME QUOTES FROM GETTYSBURG

    "They will come in the morning and they will come booming-skirmishers three deep. We will have to fight like the devil until supports arrive."

    ~John Buford on June 30, 1863

    "For a mile up and down the open fields before us the splendid lines of the veterans of the Army of Northern Virginia swept down upon us. Their bearing was magnificent. They came forward with a rush, and how our men did yell, 'Come on, Johnny, come on!'"

    ~Lt. Col. Rufus R. Dawes, 6th Wisconson, The Iron Brigade, July 1, 1863

    "The two lines met and broke and mingled in the shock. The crush of musketry gave way to cuts and thrusts. How men held on, each one knows,-not I. But manhood commands admiration."

    ~Joshua L. Chamberlain on the climax of the fight at Little Round Top, July 2, 1863

    "My dead and wounded were nearly as great in number as those still on duty. They literally covered the ground. The blood stood in puddles in some places on the rocks; the ground was soaked with the blood of brave men as ever fell on the red field of battle."

    ~Colonel William C. Oates, 15th Alabama, at Little Round Top

    "General Lee, I have been a soldier all my life. I have been with soldiers engaged in fights by couples, by squads, companies, regiments, divisions, and armies, and should know as well as anyone what soldiers can do. It is my opinion that no fifteen thousand men ever arrayed for battle can take that position."

    ~James Longstreet to Robert E. Lee concerning the charge on July 3, 1863

    "Up men, and to your posts! Don't forget today that you are from old Virginia!"

    ~George Pickett to his division moments before the infamous Pickett's Charge, July 3, 1863

    "General Lee, I have no division now. Armistead is down, Garnett is down, and Kemper is mortally wounded."

    ~George Pickett to Robert E. Lee after the repulse of Pickett's Charge


     
    From: IrishInCal@aol.com

    Check out the 69th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry Homepage.

    http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/HMore/69th_pennsylvania_infantry.htm
    (Link Updated 6/27/04)

     

    IrishInCal: I did and I love it…? I was tickled that I could read with a music background Heh Heh … Thanks for the site URL.

     
    From: DJoi@aol.com

    Out of the mouthes of babes!

    White Hair

     

    One day, a little girl is sitting and watching her mother do the dishes at the kitchen sink. She suddenly notices that her mother has several strands of white hair sticking out in contrast on her brunette head.

    She looks at her mother and inquisitively asks, "Why are some of your hairs white, mom?"

    Her mother replied, "Well, every time that you do something wrong and make me cry or unhappy, one of my hairs turns white."

    The little girl thought about this revelation for a while, and then said, "Momma, how come *all* of grandma's hairs are white?"

     

    {{{Dottie}}} I love it!! Of course being a grandpa (recently again) has absolutely nothing to do with it – LOL

    GFS Jim


     
    From: FVJEB@aol.com

    Just wanted to let you know what a great evening we spent with Frank last night, I really enjoyed it. He is a lovely person, too bad his wife couldn't have come down. He sure made me feel comfortable, usually I feel at left field. I learned a lot too. It was Great.

     

    Flo

    {{{{Flo}}}} Jayne forwarded me your note about meeting with Frank. I was talking about what a thrill it is meeting people in person finally after having spent a year in a chat room with them. I was encouraging our folks to do it if the chance ever presents itself. I’m glad you (FVJEB), Ben (Fbenway) and Frank IllinoisCW) had such a great time together ?


     

    From: Jowhara7@aol.com

    TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS,

    HE LIVED ALL ALONE,

    IN A ONE BEDROOM HOUSE MADE OF

    PLASTER AND STONE.

    I HAD COME DOWN THE CHIMNEY

    WITH PRESENTS TO GIVE,

    AND TO SEE JUST WHO

    IN THIS HOME DID LIVE.

    I LOOKED ALL ABOUT,

    A STRANGE SIGHT I DID SEE,

    NO TINSEL, NO PRESENTS,

    NOT EVEN A TREE.

    NO STOCKING BY MANTLE,

    JUST BOOTS FILLED WITH SAND,

    ON THE WALL HUNG PICTURES

    OF FAR DISTANT LANDS.

    WITH MEDALS AND BADGES,

    AWARDS OF ALL KINDS,

    A SOBER THOUGHT

    CAME THROUGH MY MIND.

    FOR THIS HOUSE WAS DIFFERENT,

    IT WAS DARK AND DREARY,

    I FOUND THE HOME OF A SOLDIER,

    ONCE I COULD SEE CLEARLY.

    THE SOLDIER LAY SLEEPING,

    SILENT, ALONE,

    CURLED UP ON THE FLOOR

    IN THIS ONE BEDROOM HOME.

    THE FACE WAS SO GENTLE,

    THE ROOM IN SUCH DISORDER,

    NOT HOW I PICTURED

    A UNITED STATES SOLDIER.

    WAS THIS THE HERO

    OF WHOM I'D JUST READ?

    CURLED UP ON A PONCHO,

    THE FLOOR FOR A BED?

    I REALIZED THE FAMILIES

    THAT I SAW THIS NIGHT,

    OWED THEIR LIVES TO THESE SOLDIERS

    WHO WERE WILLING TO FIGHT.

    SOON ROUND THE WORLD,

    THE CHILDREN WOULD PLAY,

    AND GROWNUPS WOULD CELEBRATE

    A BRIGHT CHRISTMAS DAY.

    THEY ALL ENJOYED FREEDOM

    EACH MONTH OF THE YEAR,

    BECAUSE OF THE SOLDIERS,

    LIKE THE ONE LYING HERE.

    I COULDN'T HELP WONDER

    HOW MANY LAY ALONE,

    ON A COLD CHRISTMAS EVE

    IN A LAND FAR FROM HOME.

    THE VERY THOUGHT

    BROUGHT A TEAR TO MY EYE,

    I DROPPED TO MY KNEES

    AND STARTED TO CRY.

    THE SOLDIER AWAKENED

    AND I HEARD A ROUGH VOICE,

    "SANTA DON'T CRY,

    THIS LIFE IS MY CHOICE;

    I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM,

    I DON'T ASK FOR MORE,

    MY LIFE IS MY GOD,

    MY COUNTRY, MY CORPS."

    THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER

    AND DRIFTED TO SLEEP,

    I COULDN'T CONTROL IT,

    I CONTINUED TO WEEP.

    I KEPT WATCH FOR HOURS,

    SO SILENT AND STILL

    AND WE BOTH SHIVERED

    FROM THE COLD NIGHT'S CHILL.

    I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE

    ON THAT COLD, DARK, NIGHT,

    THIS GUARDIAN OF HONOR

    SO WILLING TO FIGHT.

    THEN THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER,

    WITH A VOICE SOFT AND PURE,

    WHISPERED, "CARRY ON SANTA,

    IT'S CHRISTMAS DAY, ALL IS SECURE."

    ONE LOOK AT MY WATCH,

    AND I KNEW HE WAS RIGHT.

    "MERRY CHRISTMAS MY FRIEND,

    AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT."

     

     

    This poem was written by a Marine stationed in Okinawa Japan. The following is his request. I think it is reasonable.....

    PLEASE. Would you do me the kind favor of sending this to as many people as you can? Christmas will be coming soon and some credit is due to our U.S. service men and women for our being able to celebrate these festivities. Let's try in this small way to pay a tiny bit of what we owe. Make people stop and think of our heroes, living and dead, who sacrificed themselves for us. Please, do your small part to plant this small seed.

    {{Jowhara7}}} A very reasonable request and so we pass it on with many thanks to those who make it happen…. Sometimes we do forget…


     
    From: Keskalublu@aol.com

    To: GFS Jayne

    Enjoyed the bit about insects. And it gave me an idea to search and discover for a GRGRgrandfather who may have served in the CW as a Confederate Dr. His name was KNOX, uncertain of first name, but maybe John (great tip!) Do know he was an MD and moved to Missouri from Ms in the mid 1860's. He may have spent some time in Ark enroute. Anyway--is there a list or recording of doctors who served? He died in MO before 1870 of some kind of epidemic, leaving a young son John W and daugher Cadda, too young to pass on much info. Again, any help much appreciated. Still also looking for info on William W Ingram who served in NC and died 5/15/15 in MS.

    Keep the oars rowing..... LKR


     
    From: BHogan32@aol.com

    To: GFS Jayne

    Jayne thanks so much for your mail and help. I also want to thank you for the site you sent this time, Betty


     
    From: CKenter838@aol.com

    Jayne, I was given a new web site that might be of interest to some in the group....it's Jews in the Civil War http://www.jewish-history.com/civilwar.htm

    Being Jewish myself, this topic has always been of interest to me. So, I thought I would pass this one along.

    Hugs,

    Cheryl

    {{{{{Cheryl}}}}} This is a great site!!! I spent several hours perusing thru it.


     
    From: PRISS@aol.com

    Congradualtaion to you all. You do a wonderful job. I have really learned alot this past year from you all.

    Judy in Alabama

    {{{{{Judy}}}}} We all thank you for the kind words, but if it weren't for all of you, there wouldn't even be a chat for us to host. I've learned alot this year also.... it's surprising just how much you learn when you're helping others.


     
    From: Jowhara7@aol.com

    "Congratulations!"

    I knew you all were great!

    Jacque

    {{{{{Jacque}}}}} Thank you!!! and IF we're great, it's only a reflection of all of you who join us each week.


     
    From: GFS Gary@aol.com

    You have probably seen this site. But just in case I'm passing it along. Stumbled on it while researching an upcoming presentation.

    Gary

    Click here: GenealogyBookShop.com: Civil War

    http://www.genealogical.com/search_gen.asp?afid=1132&Cat_ID=CW
    (Link Updated 6/27/04)

     

    {{{{{Gary}}}}} I had NOT seen this before!!!!! Take a look at it folks... there are many books on the site and each has a short "book report". UGH.. remember those in school!!!!!!!!

     From: AslanJ@aol.com

    To: GFS Jim, GFS Jayne

    Remember when I was interested in knowing more about the women of Roswell Mill in GA who were rounded up and sent north on a train and forgotten? Well, here is the site of the Roswell Mills Sons of the Confederate Veterans. I just found it online. Here is a message they have posted:

    The Roswell Mills Camp is currently promoting the raising of a monument dedicated to the Mill workers. During the War these workers were mainly women who were systematically rounded up along with their children and sent to prison after the Roswell mills were ordered burned by Yankee General Sherman because the mills were producing materials for the Confederate States of America.

    Here is the link and URL to the site. It is very interesting.

    Judy Canant

    The Roswell Mills Sons of Confederate Veterans Home Page

    http://www.geocities.com/xeng12b/
    (Link Updated 6/27/04)


     I received the following URL from GFS Wolford... you might want to check it out. It covers more than just the Civil War.

    It's the Military website by GFS Beri.

    Military Chat

    http://lineage.net/mil_web.htm
    URL no longer valid - 6/27/2004


     

    From: KINFOLK919@aol.com

    A big rose to you, JIM and others for the award. Good job. We all thank you. GOD bless.

    Kinfolk


     
    CHUCKLE...

    The Bare- bottom "Bushwack"

    One of the Confederate soldiers reported one of his experiences in the Gettysburg campaign. ''It was just before the battle of Gettysburg and our regiment was camped on the suburbs of the pretty Pennsylvania town. A stream was near the camp, and one afternoon I suggested to some of the boys in my company that we take a bath and a swim. They took to the idea, and likewise to the water, in quick time there were no houses in the immediate vicinity, except for one on a hillside about half mile away belonging to an old Spinster lady.


    "We had been swimming for awhile when a boy trudged into camp in search of the captain. He had a note from the old maid, which read: "Dear Sir: I wish you would order your men out of the stream. I can see them plainly through my brothers field glasses!"

     

    Many thanks to FBenway for his original contributions. Thanks also to Jacque de who sent us a poem written by her Great Great Grandfather Gideon Luke Roach. I found a great Iowa website with many poems contributed by Marvel Hall. I wrote to him and asked his permission to use them and I'm happy to report he said yes!! AND Mr. Hall is now on our Weekly Fireside distribution. You will find many other Civil War related pages at this site.

     As many of you know, GFS TEG and LADYTUBES1 were guest lecturers at the DE Genealogical Society Workshop this past Sat. Tom and Vicki arrived Friday evening and we had a great time "catching up"... (like we never talk to each other on the puter!!! ) LOL Saturday was a really early day for us all. Tom was dressed in his 14th Brooklyn uniform and Vicki was dressed in a beautiful gray "riding" outfit with hoops.. Tom told the group about the roll the 1st and 2nd Delaware had at the Battle of Gettysburg. He brought a list of the DE soldiers who are buried in the cemetery there. Vicki brought 3 dress forms, one with "underpinnings", one with a work dress and one with a better dress complete with hoops. It was a great day!!!! It was a great weekend that went entirely too fast!!!

    Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events*****

     

    Time: Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Golden Gates Room with Hosts GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFS Jim and our many faithful friends :)

     

    11/4/99 - Open Chat

    11/11/99 - "Letters, Songs and Poems of the Civil War" Our very special night, please join us!! Don’t forget to send us any of your family "treasures" you want to share with the room and we’ll certainly oblige you… Send to GFS Jim, GFS Jayne or GFS TEG.

    11/18/99 - Open Chat (tentatively)

    11/25/99 - THANKSGIVING - Your hosts will be spending the day with our families and we do so desire you to enjoy the same ?. We wish you all a great family holiday.

     

    We'll See You Thursday Night..!

    Your Hosts

    GFS Jim@aol.com, GFS Jayne@aol.com and GFS TEG@aol.com


     

    GFS Jim has asked me to say a GREAT BIG THANK YOU for all the notes sent to him about the recent birth of his new granddaughter... Madeleine Elizabeth Walker

     
    This is just between all of you and me.. Shhhhh... we won't tell GFS TEG/TUBES14 I'm doing this... He's got a new website. It's still under construction, but nevertheless, you might want to take a peek at it... especially you re-enactors.

    It's "PowderBoy" http://www.powderboy.com
    Link inactive 6/27/2004

     
     

     

     

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